Buffed TR Harrasser Vulcan

So here we go again ^^ Vulcan got buffed and our PPA got nerfed like hell ...curious i dont see any balance anymore ..TR Harrasser ****** a mag in less then 10 seconds...insane damage and insane accuracy ....would benice if we can get some balance or just give Vanu back the old PPA..ty

i think the PPA buff is on the pts right now

but what i don't get is why people compare the vulcan with the PPA when it comes to the harasser. one is a AI weapon designed to kill infantry and the other is a anti armor weapon with minimal AI ability

Old PPA had the problem of being too effective for the relatively low amount of skill required to use it. Banshee had the same issue where anyone with average or less accuracy could do amazing with it.

Vulcan-H has the issue of being really powerful and not being really punishing for misses. The current PTS iterations of the Enforcer and Saron are up to par with the Vulcan, if not better (this includes harasser versions). That's still a matter of debate of course.

The Vulcan on the Prowler recently got buffed, not the Harasser version. However the Saron is now more accurate, and the Enforcer is OP and evrn more dangerous than a Vulcan for CQC. The PPA just got tweaked on the PTS so it's not horrible anymore. A 2/2 Magrider can kill a Vulcan Harasser in a fraction of the time the Vulcan Harasser can kill you provided you're not letting it sit 5 meters behind and unload its massive mag into you like a massive derp.

Insane accuracy... INSANE ACCURACY?

I suppose my shotgun has an insane accuracy because I never miss when I sneak up behind someone who isn't moving and shoot at point blank?

I dont compare anything ..its just annoying TR vehicle weapon gets buffed like hell ...and Vanu weapon just get nerfed ...PPA is an useless weapon now...thats the point

Seems you dont know how it feels when a Harrasser Vulcan gets you down in 10 seconds w/o reloading ..sure you can kill the Harrasser ...its not the point ..TR weapon get buffed and Vanu PPA got useless after the heavy nerfs .... thats the point...

Are you serious about not having to go to base for ammo with a weapon that has not drop is not a clear buff, or something that should be that way? stuff is yesterday NC won esamir i was playing nc so i kept playing world of tanks spawning as many vanguards as i could i just have 2 levels of shield, second lvl of racer ap cannon with 2 lvls of zoom and reload standard basilisk as secondary that looks as bad as it did before buff and nerf, so there was a harasser with vulcan but there where other tanks like 2 three lightnings so each time the harasser destroyed my vanguard i tried to destroy a lighting, but i could just take out one lightning at a time it was frustrating because of its agility it was difficult to hit and without enforcer that i do not have the certs to buy and will wait to see what it comes to be with that recoil. So he killed a vanguard more fast than a prowler vulcan kills a harasser, If i get at the back of a vanguard my prowler i do not need a vulcan really, but i think that the problem is that they both have the same damage, yes it was hateful having my vanguard blown up all the time if it had been just one harasser but the speed was frustrating, i did not complain about my tank just being blown up by three nc harasser one with halberd and one with enforcer, but just one faster than two lightnings, I do not know what to say about how to "fix" the vulcan for the harasser i think that in the prowler is ok because when singling i just use it against harassers and due to same damage profile it will just take me the same as a harasser harasser fight, when we have prowler vanguard fights one one with vulcan and him with secondary and gunner they are even i like to think that the vanguard still needs some softening first... but in the harasser with no secondary able to hit him hard enough before he destroys you is rather op. in the prowler it works well very well now not so well due to speed against tanks but makes infantry run too but having a harasser just move at your back while you are facing someone else and just blow you up with your shield up is unfair. I have defended that the vulcan was not that op but my experiences most of the time are prowler only. Your ppa was a little bit too much big orbs is like is the big orb that hits the target you complain about accuracy sometimes, 100 kills i remember people saying, i mean. The problem with the vulcan is that it has its own resistance kin and what makes infantry run but kills few up close that is awesome for the prowler but makes the harasser do too much damage to tanks, you have to change all the other guns on the same damage category and adjust them that i think is the way it is going do to the "banshe nerf".

The PPA just was buffed the changes are on the PTS, the Saron is about to buffed on the PTS. The battlegoose LMG which is already the best directive LMG is getting buffed again while as of right now the Butcher will stay bad.

PPA(-H) was Low skill-low risks-high reward.
The vlucan-H is low skill-high risks-high reward.
Prowler vulcan is low skill-high risks-low reward.

Welcome to balance. Before the PPA nerf, 10 harassers and mags would sit up on hills and bombard the spawn room into the stone age. It made alot of people mad and for good reason. Like Eskimo said, don't be a derp.

Since you are comparing weapons that are not related (AV vs. AI) I would like to bring up a new comparison:
Striker is still garbage. So garbage in fact, that it is single-handedly denying TR players from getting The Kraken because Aux'ing a Striker (1160 kills) is impossible.

At least with the Lancer, you can still get some use out of it on land. Have you tried to kill anything on land with a Striker?

Please, what do you know about it? You have about as much chance as earning a Butcher as they have at finding Jimmy Hoffa buried under a football field.

Unless the Battlegoode is getting Anti-Tank rounds, I wouldn't worry too much if I were you.

How the hell is the vulcan-H high risk? "Oh, let me just take my AV gattling things that is hgihly effective against infantry because of its ROF and spread, decent against air for the same reasons, not very decent but better than the saron or enforcer AA, and the current best AV weapon in the game, put it on the fastest most maneuverable vehicle, add extended mags, ammo capacity, and thermals. God being better against EVERYTHING than the other two ES AV harasser weapons is such a high risk. #firstworldtrproblems"

I dont play HA enough, doesnt striker AA spam still work decently?

well for starters the Vulcan was in a similar place as the PPA before the buff, it was only ever good on a harasser to drive around a tank and shred it to pieces, or to sneak up on a tank while it was farming infantry.

but on the prowler it is a totally different story, you see a weapon like the saron or enforcer work on a mbt because they have ranged ability and do not need to get up in somebody's face to make it work (well saron has the cof thing), while the prowler is better at range due to anchor mode (yeah blame anchor) this makes the Vulcan redundant at this type of play style that the prowler is most effective at, and consequently makes the Vulcan only really useful on a harasser.

barely. you need like 5 other guys with a striker to kill 1 esf [exaggeration mode disengaged]

It's getting a heat cool down buff. The butcher has bad horizontal recoil and lack of good attachments like an advanced forward grip. Why would anyone would use it over the normal LMGs is beyond me. I'm playing infantry on a regular basis now so you can shut it. That being said I can see why people complain about the scythes PPA and client side killing you after you found cover.

The walk from the spawn room to the vehicle terminal?

The vulcan-H is a bit overperforming. I never denied that.

But yeah, much higher risks than shooting from 100-200m away like others AV weapons does.
It is easyer to hit a moving vehicles at those ranges or at 50m?

It's also way more annoying to fight an hit and run harasser(with halberd/saron/enforcer) that kept range and harrass you, killing you slowly than a suicide run vulcan one.


And vulcan good at AI? It requires 6-7 bullet to kill a non-nanoweave-non-overshielded with like you said a very wide COF. You're way faster to bail and use your sidearm to kill an infantry. Enforcer, Halberd and maybe even saron are more reliable and from longer ranges.

Vulcan good at AA? well if your scythe or youre lib is hugfacing the vulcan, yeah it will die fast.

i'ld be curious to know what is average lifetime of vulcan vehicles compared to saron en enforce ones.