[Suggestion] Buff Canister and Marauder, revamp Vulcan

Make Vulcan AI only, similar to the Banshee with more magazine/ammo.
Make Canister AI only, similar to the Airhammer with more magazine/ammo.

Vulcan's splash can vary according to how well its going to perform. 4 hits should bring down an enemy.
Canister should be much more stronger, and have a wider spread. ATM it only rewards you kills if you have amazing accuracy.

And Marauder can be AV, similar to the fractures but better. RoF, damage, MV etc.

Good joke man...

Keep the Canister as is but give it PPA-sized magazines.

The PPA is as good as the C85 up close and much, much, much, much, much better at all other ranges and can fire endlessly to boot. With 50-70 in the mag the C85 wouldn't be so bad because it would be able to lay down pain.

But it's a shotgun, nevermind that it's a shotgun that's functionally identical to or worse than the PPA, so it must have a small mag and long reload.

Joke? I can tell you a joke if you want. The Vulcan. That's it.

I've been saying to do what the OP is saying for quite some time now, and honestly, it just makes the most sense. I hope at some point what is being presented here will actually happen, because for some reason, only the VS gets to have the same effective AI weapon across three different vehicles.(Light PPA is mostly the same).

Only thing about the Marauder though, it should be like Pounders, imo. They are both already explode-on-impact grenade launchers, so I think it works fine to have it changed to AV duty.

+1 OP

If you make the Vulcan a pure AI weapon to basically make it into a Kobalt. Tankers aren't going to pull it because it leaves you absolutely screwed against tanks and it wouldn't have any reasonable splash. Having an AV Gatling gun is fun and unique and we almost had it in a good state pre super nerf. First off if you make the Vulcan AI it's probably going to get nerfed due to it being used against infantry.

The Marauder just needs high projectile Velocity and a little more splash damage. Don't change it so during a MBT revamp we can get a new fracture like weapon.

Wait.

Why wouldn't the Vulcan have splash if its AI? The OP wants to make it like the Banshee, and I know from experience that the Banshee can reach out and touch, even outside of optimal distance. Also, we have seen that SOE is having a hard time balancing the Vulcan for AV due to the fact that it is a gatling gun. It just makes more sense, at this point, to turn it into a Banshee and turn the Maruader into fractures/pounders for AV.

Fair point about the uniqueness though.

Man I would love it if the Vulcan was like the Banshee.

the canister should be turned into an actual canister launcher that shoots large projectiles which release shrapnel upon impact

Vulcan will not be like the Kobalt.
Do you have an easier time killing infantry with the rotary or the banshee? (kobalt = rotary)

TR tankers are already screwed in most cases (in terms of secondary weapon) , because they hardly ever have a gunner, unless its a halberd prowler.

Tankers are definitely going to pull it regardless of the fact that it leaves them screwed against vehicles. If they make it good enough for gunners to actually want to gun for the Prowler.
If gunners are going to gun, then drivers will surely pull it.

Against AV, its definitely not the way to go.

I would expect them to change prices of the marauder and vulcan if they make vulcan AI and marauder AV.

So if the price is 250 certs, and its actually an effective gun, then I can bet there will be loads of tankers pulling the new vulcan.

SOE has a hard time balancing the Vulcan because they don't use tanks in the first place. Before this last set up super nerfs to the Vulcan it wasn't even overpreforming on the Prowler. They LITERALLY could've left the Prowler version alone and nerfed the Harasser version. It has NOTHING to do with the fact it's a Gatling gun, and everything to deal with the fact SOE doesn't drive the tanks in the game so they don't have the faintest idea of what the heck they are doing.

Are u getting the Vulcan mixed up with the marauder? The marauder is the AI gun and Vulcan is AV.

If u want the Vulcan to be AI and to kill in four shots you can seriously forget about it keeping its current ROF, especially if your expecting an accuracy or cone of fire buff.

I suggested to change the Vulcan into an AI weapon.
And the Marauder into a AV weapon.

I was talking about, if they make the Vulcan into an AI weapon like the Banshee.
Damage values can vary, depending on how good/bad this weapon is if they revamp it.

Have you even tried the Banshee against vehicles. It is a mini Shredder... in fact, it has the same stats as the Shredder in all but two aspect. It loses some mag size and direct damage, so it isn't as effective against vehicles (but still very viable) as the Shredder. So in other words the Vulcan would be just as effective against vehicles as it currently already is.

Actually when i said AI only, i meant it would do no damage to heavy vehicles.
Same with the Canister.

I suggested the Marauder to be made into the AV option.

No no no no, it's revamp Canister and Marauder, buff Vulcan.

Maybe tanks just shouldn't even have AV secondaries. I mean last time I check, tanks in the common consensus (real life) secondary guns are used for anti-infantry, since you know, the main gun usually has AV down pretty pat. PS2 is the only game I know with "tanks" that secondary gun isn't a heavy mounted machine gun used to clear infantry too close to the tank.

But that's just me. I think we're so used to it now in PS2 that we don't even think it's weird anymore.

Am I the only one that thinks the bulldog needs some lovin to?

Then it would be useless. Everyone would rather take a AV option that has some AI capability over a pure AI option.

A pre-nerf, uncerted Vulcan could take out 1 Liberator or 2 ESFs in a single clip, with rounds to spare. It needed adjustment badly, it just was never going to GET it until the Harasser showed the insane disparity between the different ES vehicle secondaries.

A ground based banshee!
I want that sh**. It would even be Op.