I know, i know bare with me. Don't you guys think its a little over board a little buggi to plink u from 200 meters away while mooving with 100 km h is a little over board. Tr would say it;s fine of course but it's a ******* tank buster on a fast mooving platform with no down sides. Saron has Cof and slow projectile and Enforcer has one too .... its not only op against tanks but other faction harrasers dont stand a chance too
That's a total lie and exaggeration. First off, to go against tanks. You need a group. Go TR, go find a snowman hunting group. They usually use Vulcan harassers to catch any sunderers during their hunt. When we come across tanks. It's usually 2-3 of us at minimum beating it down. Especially if it's a Vanguard. On top of that, we have to get pretty close. I won't deny the Vulcan is significantly better. But that's because the devs turned a total piece of garbage, into a good, solid weapon. Yet I will still see people fail miserably with it too, because it's not overpowered. It's a close range weapon. That's where it dominates, just like how an NC Max dominates at close range with its shotguns.
http://ps2oraclestats.com/?stat=vKPU&weapon1=6121&weapon2=6123&weapon3=6126 http://ps2oraclestats.com/?stat=vKPU&weapon1=6120&weapon2=6121&weapon3=6123 http://ps2oraclestats.com/?stat=kpu&weapon1=6123&weapon2=6121&weapon3=6126 http://ps2oraclestats.com/?stat=aKPU&weapon1=6123&weapon2=6121&weapon3=6126. Let the stats speak for itself, H version got an unneeded buff.
Meh, just looks like everyone and their mother are pulling it after it was buffed because vets are testing it out, and even now it can be seen that the stats are starting to decrease as the buff hype goes down.
I roll a lot of tanks and I got the vulcan on my harasser awhile ago and it really doesn't need the buff on the harasser.
My point here comes from another thread but it's something I'm hearing a lot about this "unneeded" buff. The vulcan-h was apparently able to one clip a MBT in the rear before the buff. So it was still OP but because no one pulled it, no one complained. Now cause everyone is pulling it, it's being noticed? Seems like a lot of things in this game things are only OP when they are spammed like PPA on a tower or Ravens in an open field. Please, everyone, STOP calling for nerfs and buffs. SOE IS LIMITED IN MAN POWER! I personally would rather see game breaking bugs such as ejector seats fixed and bug free content released more than current weapons being nerfed and buffed to satisfy the damaged egos of players who claim to want balance but will defend the spammed effective toys their own empire has. So right now the vulcan is being spammed by harrassers. Logic dictates u will die more often to it. My take on the harrasser? A mag increase was needed as before it took a fully upgraded mag size (68 rounds) to kill a lightning point blank in the rear maybe 85 rounds would having been better? OR A fixed cone of fire but like 0.8 or something instead of he current 1.1. OR ( and I know Flag will disagree with this) A velocity increase. That's right Flag I'm firing bullets here that do 167 damage traveling 300m/s, kinda sad when an LMG fires better than an AV gun i.e the Ursa and with greater accuracy (I used this example because Flag mains VS). If only they did damage to tanks I'd rather use that than the Vulcan. But that's by the by. I've always said the Vulcan needed a velocity increase if that's all we got I would have been happy with it. Sadly I also realise that the Vulcan becomes a threat to aircraft in this instance but if they choose to fly that low and that close, I think they deserve all they get personally. Risk vs reward n all. Anyway I'm tired and can't think of anything else to say.
But in truth if your slightly too far out or miss just a couple shots before the buff, they still have at least a sliver of health if they were at full.
Terran bias, much? And they complain about the loading screen Just like ZOE and the Saron got nerfed, let it stay as the piece of Terran crap it always was. I'm okay with Terran buffs as long as WE get our buffs.
Not true at all, do the comparison. http://ps2oraclestats.com/?stat=avgbr&weapon1=6121&weapon2=6123&weapon3=6126 http://ps2oraclestats.com/?stat=vKPU&weapon1=6121&weapon2=6123&weapon3=6126 Same BR so there is no "vet" and yet the AVG. Play time is much higher thus making it harder too keep those stats [it's like the difference between running the 100m sprint and a 3k marathon and comparing the m/s they both run at]. You can clearly see before the update the Vulcan-H was perfectly fine and got a unnecessary buff.
You can clearly see pre buff it was perfectly fine and on match with the Enforcer-H which is considered a very good AV weapon, so I don't see why it deserved a buff even though it was just as good if not better.
Hey, look on the bright side. At least the devs MIGHT buff the Enforcer and Saron. A non-Terran can dream... I hope
Any NC buffs will cause outcry since the Enforcer is very good anyway. VS are just stupidly hard to balance because of their uniqueness. And TR just needs some long range options because CQC guns suck at them, who knew. Otherwise the Vulcan, Saron, and Enforcer was perfectly fine and even compared to the Halberd on the harasser, until it got an unwarranted buff.
So you want all buggy AV weapons to be nerfed? Because they can all do that particular thing much better than the Vulcan.
200m is a distance where MINIMUM damage applies. Do you understand that? To be effective you still need to come face-to-face with a vanguard, what is extremely risky for harasser. You can stay on a mountain away with enforcer and deal some nice damage while being fully safe. Okay? Okay.
The Harrasser version didn't need a buff, it performed on-par with NC and VS equiverlents before the buff. and is now IMO too strong (and unsurprisingly seemingly overperforming statistically). The MBT version did need a buff, because it was performing well below-par (and seems to be performing better statistically). The "same" weapons on the MBTs and Harrasers DO NOT need to be balanced together (in fact the very opposite). Stil early days, of course, but just when you start to get a bit of faith for SOE's buff/nerf proceedure (the last few have been reasonable) they go and do something totally daft like this.
There goes one noble TR defender, i find it funny how you guys always shaft the problem. Enforcer cant obliterate you in 5 seconds, enforcer cant one clip a MTB , enforcer has 300 ms and slow rpm , try dueling a vulcan harraser at 100 km ph with enfrocer or any weapon in that matter. You can shoot safely from a mountain with any weapon. I dont see the relevancy in that mate, maybe you've got the wrong threat Vanguard has a gloryfied pumpkin shooter on top of it , if you miss one, ONLY one shot against a vulcan harraser you are toast mate not to mention half of nc that get in my vanguard cant shoot for s**t. Most of harraser duels aren't duels at all, if you get the drop you have a chance but head to head no way Now some TR would proceed to say get gud!
http://ps2oraclestats.com/?stat=playtime&weapon1=6121&weapon2=6123&weapon3=6126 Oh look play time went up as well
Good way to be constructive noble TR defender number two. Maybe think of a thesis how to defend the vulcan. Did it need the buff? So far i've only seen : "'but enforcer has an op sound"' ''you can shoot from a mountain"' "'but scatter max"" "'but vanu have no drop"" ''haha that vulcan threat'' ''nc and vanu tears '' "'but vanguard shield"' BTW poor magriders etc...
