Am I the only one tired of instagibbing scat maxes

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He

expected

the shield to actually act like a shield.

But not with 25% health. He would have been dead anyways. If he had 100% Health, he could have survived that one attack.
And it was not even c4 what killed him, it was a rocketlauncher.



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So far it seems more and more that you are biased against NC maxes.

Have you even read the threat Topic? Have you read my post about? I am getting kinda tiered of it, having to explain myself over and over again.


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but I suppose dumb****s need an easy out for any situation

Sure dude, you da man.

His ultimate point even if it wasn't properly demonstrated: The Aegis shield does not mitigate C4.

Let's not argue it down yet another rabbit hole.

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Mmm, there is a pretty pronounced difference in the engagement range of those videos. Watch each kill. Observe. See.

They are two different Persons. One is a Pro (first Clip) and the other one was a pleb.



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No, VS/TR maxes do not "rek" at long range, no MAX is viable at long range. They can certainly *engage* at medium range though and the NC MAX simply cannot.

Man, you can clearly see in the second Clip, that it is possible, to be effective with NC Scattermax on "medium" range. Just open your eyes.

Quote: Using slugs on a mattock will effectively reduce your range. The "No slugs" is for a reason. Do you even own dual mattocks on your NC Max??

I said use slugs. Nothing else, dude.


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The AI NC MAX has no range. If it frustrates you that I keep saying that so be it. I'm going to keep saying it because it's right.

Sure you can. So do we.

exactly. Not the Topic

I said for range I'll use dual mattocks with no slugs.

You said for range to use slugs.... specifically you said,

To which I replied ... well you can scroll back and read what I replied.

Slugs don't extend range man. The NC MAX has ****** range. It's kind of a thing that everyone agrees on because reality and stuff.

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I said for range I'll use dual mattocks with no slugs.

What range bro? NC Max got no range
So you are saying, Slugs dont do Sh*t? Or just on the mattlocks?

Funny... i see so many using them, including veterans.

if you wanna do range NC max just buy Gorgons then. But VS and TR will get now NS shotgun for CQB, it should be balanced. Right?

The Gorgons aren't super effective AI weapons like the TR and VS machine guns are. They sacrifice raw power for greater versatility in damaging light and heavy armour as well as infantry, but do not perform similarly to the TR or VS AI weapons.

An NS MAX shotgun weapon would be laughably bad.

Campagne, no i mean, you have two options to do range NC MAX. Slug MAX or Gorgon MAX. Don´t get me wrong or anything, but you shouldn´t think that NS machinguns would be superior in range against TR or VS machineguns. Gorgons are just option. Theres this thing going all over again. So i will tell you just this. When you are fighting other MAXes, you have atleast 2-3 seconds to react, cover, or grab health kit or anything else. In CQC of course, because no MAX is superior in medium range. Maybe just VS are better but not superior, thanks to their faction trait. Even when you are firing from gatling guns which are for range (i dont use them so i forgot the name, maybe mercy or something) their miss 60 to 70% of your ammo. As TR MAX you are the weakest of all of them. You got lockdown ofc, but thats the problem, this ability can be used only as defender and only if you are supported by engis. But back to the point. So when you are as NC MAX, your enemy reacting time is shorter, much shorter, like 1 second maybe less. He just saw blue giant colloss and thats it. NC MAXes are dominating PS2 from start of this game, because theres no facility or battleground where there is more then 20 meters fight for Infantry. Ofc you can say, but there is, yes maybe, but those are what? 2 min fight just to get to the point or something? Or even better BIO labs. One NC MAX can hold whole platoon. If we really wanna balance this game, NC should get NC machine guns and shotguns shouldnt be a thing for max at all. Just saying, that PS1 had all MAXes with one weapon. Only TR one get 2, because of TR trait. I still missing TR traits and some VS traits on PS2.

As has been said, slugs don't really increase range, and the Gorgons would be so inefficient at range against something as small and mobile as infantry it would be worse than just using shotguns anyway. Sure it's an option, but it wouldn't be practical in the least. Honestly before this thread I kinda forgot they even existed, since I've not seen any for months on end.

Shotguns have low range, very low versatility, and moderate killing power. The NS trope is to reduce killing power in favor of a supporting stat, in this case all there is would be a slightly tighter CoF or longer range. Thus, it'd most likely be at least a three-shot-kill in a realistic setting suffering all the same issues as current (MAX) shotguns do.

I'll not bother to address my opinions on the rest of your post, simply because you'd just be hearing all the same things over again.

Slugs don't do **** to increase range on scats, hacks, grinders. On mattocks they are counter productive and decrease range. The RNG just makes you cleanly miss instead of doing partial damage from pellets that would have landed.

I like to run slugs on my hacksaws though. Not because they increase range, but because it's easier to control "overspray" pellets that might hit friendlies.

But yeah... 10 thousand words later and it still boils down to: NC Max got no range. Range... it no has it.

Before this goes any further. You use the example of Slugs in the one video. This is an older video and the slugs kill several times in one salvo at more than 10m distance. The current slugs are less capable, they drop in damage from 10m and they drop from 2x500, so from 10m and on a OHK is only possible if one of the pellets hits the head.
Additionally, any level of nanoweave armor will prevent a OHK even within the 10m range unless once again you get headshots.

Well, you can defend the Scattermax, as much as you whant.
It will, (hopefully) get changes sometime.
Because the majority of People playing this Game, think it is not balanced.

The Planetside2 subreddit, also has some interesting conversations about the NC Max. You might wanna check it out or not.

See you on the Battlefield Soldier!

Oh boy, another dated video! Half the people he shoots happen to be running off after receiving damage and are quite obviously being attacked by other people.

The "interesting conversations", do they happen to be people who use a bad understanding and confirmation bias (like old video's) to justify their position like someone in this thread is doing?

LOL. That majority wouldn't happen to be *exactly* 2/3rds would it?

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Oh boy, another dated video!

2 Years, there has not been a Change to it, since then.

You just cant admit, that it is unbalanced.


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like someone in this thread is doing?

I did not start it

Well, i did not Count them ofc.
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2/3rds, is the

majority ;P

Ofcourse no change! Except ofcourse that you've posted a video of a Scattermax with slugs that deal more damage than current slugs. Weird how you can ignore that.

You are right, I cant admit its unbalanced because it isnt.

But you do support a non-existent idea based on "I dislike it" and try to justify it with aged video's.

If its so OP, it should be easy for you to make a video or other proof of that OPness, right?[/quote]

Quote: You are right, I cant admit its unbalanced because it isnt.

And therein lies the Problem. More People think it is unbalanced. Cant deny that.

Just check out reddit for a Change.

It is indeed the majority. It always is because everyone thinks all things are OP except their own faction. It's kindof a thing in Forumside.