#1 Thing to fix in this game

Discussion in 'PlanetSide 2 Gameplay Discussion' started by Kassidus, Oct 13, 2013.

  1. wolfva

    You speak generally to a crowd. You speak specifically to one person. And really, tossing physical threats of violence because you don't agree with someone on teh intrawebz? Seriously? Can you get any more juvenile then that? Wait, scratch that question...I don't want you to think it's a challenge which you must rise to.

    In any case, Huller was right. As an NC on Waterson I see our losses as a result of our own stupidity. Sure, we're out numbered. When you're outnumbered, though, it is inclement upon you to CHANGE YER FRICKEN TACTICS. How many times have we been spread at several bases...each fight with 2-4 times our numbers. Each fight, lost. Each base captured by the enemy. Hey, here's an idea, consolidate our forces and concentrate on 1 or 2 key points! Sure, we'll still be outnumbered, but it's easier for 40+ players to defend against a hundred players then it is for 2 or 3 players to defend aganst a dozen.

    Instead of playing to our strengths and supporting each other, we all run off to do our own thing. We leave sunderers unguarded and along, then are shocked when someone drops some C4...or worst...an engie's AV turret, and blows the Sunderer. We spawn at smoking Sunderers and instead of repairing it or even guarding it...we run off by ourselves to rejoin the battle. Only to die almost instantly because they're picking us off 1 by 1 as we meander into view...and WHOOPS! Now we don't have a sunderer to spawn at because it got LOLpodded by a lone ESF. A nearby point is being capped, we have even numbers, but 2/3 of our force is hunkered down in the spawn room shooting from safely...and half of THOSE people are in sniper suits...instead of rushing the point and retaking it. We play like idiots, then flock to the forums to whine about how the ONLY reason we lost is because the other guys are OP, or outnumbered us and things must be made...FAAAIIRRRR! *

    *Disclaimer: If these comments don't apply to you...then they aren't AIMED at you. They're aimed only at those who fit the descriptions.
  2. Camycamera

    the 2 biggest things that bug me about this game is

    1. optimisation (but that is being fixed :D)
    2. spawn room design.
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  3. ValorousBob


    You and Huller should come on TVA teamspeak and talk this is out, you'd give the Vanu something to entertain ourselves with while we ignore the Alerts.
  4. Kastrenzo

    Planetside 2 Will never reach that holy trinity of equal population balance.

    Pick something else..


    And on that note, I think that's the name of one of my alts, HolyTrinitySomething.
  5. St0mpy


    Exactly, I agree, getting pushed back in one local battle is nothing to do with the counter at the start, so lets remove it for all the trouble it causes .. name one good thing the counter brings us?
  6. Bankrotas

    Only if VS females would stripdance.
    But he'd need to make me angry again. He's one of few bastards, who are capable of doing that to me over internet.
  7. HooWoo

    2x damage with Sniper rifles?

    gg oneshot COD quickscoepers#MLG420Blaez$wAGmA$Tr
  8. Czuuk

    Validation that TR is OP.
  9. CDN_Wolvie

    I'm sorry, what were those NC mechanical 'strengths' you speak of?

    And I take exception to you generally laying waste to the aptitude of the NC on Waterson. NC Waterson do support each other, they do play together, and train together. Before I deleted PS2 off my Steam a few weeks ago, I bounced around a lot of Outfits for several months. NCSO, UN1T, SPV, LBTY, ALAX, HATZ, PREY, PHX, TCG, etc... Alot of the Outfits play together in the same platoons now, especially at times other than the evening prime time when every faction gets more players logging on. A considerable number of them are fun, considerate, skilled, cooperative, helpful, tactically minded, and so on - in fact, several times I have witnessed NC Outfits prove there is more to the game than simply zerging (pointing everyone at a capture point and saying go there or be kicked) by way of interesting squad based goals that while not being on the point of a base help capture that point because it was a good localized strategy to take this or that high ground or set up a road block or occupy a building and so on...

    I'm not saying what happened to you didn't happen, I believe you witnessed what you did but the better tactical and strategic play level is there in the Waterson NC.

    But the fact of the matter is the NC aren't playing with tools that are as conducive to capturing the objectives at effective distances and on the move to take advantage of the way the client side hit detection and net code. When a NC is organized they don't reach the same heights as others and when they are not organized they hit the lowest lows ... and its not a coincidence that changes to the performance of the game without a doubt improved their scores last Fall, 2012.

    Will the OMFG update help the NC? I suspect it will produce a up tick in the scores of NC players if it does what it promises but in the end, while the NC traits were good theories on paper, in practice its a whole lot of effort just to get another disadvantage piled on even when you use the supposed advantages. After a year of playing NC mechanics, my patience wore out on waiting for it to get fixed - instead it got nerfed and made obsolete by new weapons. Why anyone plays NC anymore is beyond me but it doesn't stop me from remembering those I played with are still good gamers.
  10. St0mpy

    lol so how are they now second overall in the WDS? Theres only three servers where the TR have any kind of traction, the rest theyre losing on. That doesnt sound very OP does it? :)
  11. wolfva

    <shaking head>

    Even when you put a disclaimer stating that if the comments don't apply then they aren't aimed at you, you'll still get some guy who puffs his chest in righteous rage at the 'insults' you have so grievously aimed at HIM SPECIFICALLY and his buddies. He'll then post a multi paragraph rant showing how wrong you are for your comments that you aimed at HIM SPECIFICALLY...even though you went out of your way to state that if the comments didn't apply then they weren't aimed in that direction. Never fails. Makes me wonder if they even teach reading comprehension in school anymore.
  12. CDN_Wolvie

    What the... I wasn't taking it personal, just putting another view point that wasn't even all that opposed to your view point on the server and faction specific topic and examples you brought up. And you insult my reading comprehension? Why don't you address my counter points and examples rather than ad hominem, eh?
  13. Xasapis

    Your suggestion creates more problems than it solves. You're basically moving the problem from (X faction is doing better because they are more) to (X faction is doing better because they are OP). In either case, you are not solving the issue of people joining the X faction, because it's "better". In fact, you're making it worse. At least now, people who want to challenge themselves will pick a less populated faction. Would the same people make the choice to pick a faction with perceived broken equipment?
  14. wolfva

    "And I take exception to you generally laying waste to the aptitude of the NC on Waterson." That is a personal statement. You then go on lambasting me for my 'general' comments about the NC that don't apply to all NC. AFTER I pointed out that those comments WERE NOT about ALL NC, and those that the comments didn't apply to were not included. I'll also toss in this disclaimer that I'm using caps as an EMPHASISER, and not as an EMOTIONAL RESPONSE (also using it sarcastically in this sentence).

    There is no point in me addressing your 'counter points'. I say, "Many people don't work cohesively." You respond, "I take exception to that! WHY, some people DO work cohesively!" That's a counter point?!? It's the SAME THING I SAID. Many+some=all. You're not arguing a different point, you're arguing the same point from a different angle but only because you decided to ignore the disclaimer and take what I said as a personal affront. Now when you are called on it you're desperately trying to back pedal to save face rather then just admit you made a goof (perhaps) based on not reading what I wrote thoroughly.

    The sad thing is the entire point of the disclaimer was to AVOID this type of inane back and forth drivel we're having. But no, you decided you wanted to get into an epeen contest or something, so let's just ignore the disclaimer, take offense and claim that I said something I didn't (that my comments applied to ALL NC) and then go all 'white knight'...riding into the thread like a Paladin of Justice here to smite the foul Saoirse for daring to impugn upon the honor of the NC. It is to /facepalm.
  15. Czuuk

    How quickly we forget. The scoring was changed to compensate for population advantage. Also, the TR won the first three weeks handily. And have built an insurmountable lead.

    But whatever gets you to sleep at night I guess.
  16. Xasapis

    I don't think the scoring changed just yet. I'm pretty sure the changes will go live for the actual season, but I don't think they are implemented for the pre-season.

    What is more than likely happening is that, considering how overwhelmingly better TR were doing when people were playing normally, now VS & NC actively avoid each other and hunt TR as the primary target.
  17. Czuuk

    Malorn indicated otherwise.

    "Hello everyone! We have some updates for you regarding the goals of the World Domination Series preseason and upcoming changes to it."
  18. Xasapis

    I must have missed the part where it says these are implemented. Because from my understanding, these are upcoming changes. Same with server optimisation, upcoming but not live just yet.
  19. Liewec123

    i'd say either re-add frontline spawn points (the game is boring as hell when you spend most of your time travelling)
    no freaking idea why they took them out, it serves no purpose other than to spread the player base making bases empty and free for the taking and ruins the game.

    or fix the resources, its no fun when the resource system favours the colossal tank zerg that is facerolling across the server with endless resources, while the underpopped factions are gaining 25 resources every 4 minutes so they can't spawn anything to fight the zerg with and are basically transformed into a cert farm for the tank zerging overpop.
  20. Czuuk

    Yeah. I guess you did. Because the quote clearly says that these changes are intended for the preseason.