NC has no muzzle flash, a free Flash Suppressor (!) when particles are turned to low which gives a m

Discussion in 'Bug Reports' started by GopSt0p, Nov 9, 2022.

  1. GopSt0p

    Hello there
    NC has no muzzle flash if you play on low particles (which a lot of people use for better FPS etc.)Every NC weapon has build in ''free'' Flash Suppressor attachment. We think it's a bug and did some testing.
    I tested muzzle flash with a friend. Same settings etc.TR and VS have a highly visable muzzle flash (gets removed with flash supp).NC however has no muzzle flash at all (only for yourself).
    Flash Supp is a very good attachment for Light Assault to not get spotted so easily which you can see in this clip.We picked Indar daytime to show how strong muzzle flash is and how easily somebody is targeted with it. The effect gets stronger in darker areas but is still strong in even the brightest area thus we picked daylight Indar (muzzle flash looks bright yellowish).
    In the clip you can see that the shots are very close and if shoot at by NC you can't track it as easily as non NC weapons. (1 clip with TR default carbine, VS same results)Mulitple weapons were used. It only affects NC Weapons.NC has built in full flash supp??? Whats the point of having it as an attachment, most people that use kinda competitive or high fps settings have 'particles' set to low!For Comp play only Pilots, Sniper and some Tankers use high particles to better see the tracers.We're both on the same connection, same graphic settings. Reseted our graphic and user settings to default. It still has the same effect..NC has a ''free'' flash supp.We did this on jaeger server and after a lot of testing we checked if it happens on live as well, it does.

    VIDEO: https://www.reddit.com/r/Planetside/comments/yqkh7k/nc_has_no_muzzle_flash_a_free_flash_suppressor/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

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  2. piata

    I can confirm this. If you play with particles on low, the NC weapons have no muzzle flash (you don't see the muzzle flash of an NC enemy). The muzzle flash is really usefull when noticing, spotting and shooting back at an enemy. Therefore we have the flash suppressor attachment to remove the flash, to be harder visible and more stealthy, which is an advantage and can boost your survivalbilty.
    But if you play with particles on low, basically every enemy with an NC weapon has this attachment 'built in'. Which is an disadvantage for every TR, VS or NSO player that plays with particles on low (which a lot of people do because of better frames or low spec pc etc.).

    And if you're an NC player, which attachment should you use?
    Pray that most player have their particles set to low and get 'free' flash suppressor because of this + an extra attachment that you put on your weapon the normal way (compensator, silencer, short barrel etc.) and having two attachment this way, which no other faction can?
    Or put on the flash suppressor the normal way because of its benefits but kinda have it equipped two times against players who have their particles set to low, and consenquently losing the advantage of another normal attachment that you could have equipped otherwise and making the flash suppressor that you have equipped kinda useless, a wasted slot for another attachment?

    I know that the NC weapons are supposed to be Gauss Rifles and this means they maybe won't have a muzzle flash in 'real life', but if you set the particles qualtiy anything higher than low, medium and upwards, the NC weapons have a muzzle flash that is visible, so it's not a lore or class fantasy thing (and would be quite op and unbalanced). So it must be a bug and should be fixed easily.

    Since no other faction or NS weapons are affected, it's probably and easy fix, if you put particles one step up, everything is fine again. So probably a small fix in the code, but a big problem for the game.
  3. GopSt0p

    The problem is that people that play on low particles (competitive high fps settings, or low spec PC) won't see the muzzle or disadvantage as NC if you want to run Flash Suppressor but don't want ''two of them'' because of people playing on lower particles.
    It can be bad for NC players that run flash supp because they can have 0 use out of that attachment slot for a lot of people (the ones that run particles on low).
    Or it can actually be strong against those people since you can have ''2 barrel attachments kinda''
    Example Bad: Flash Supp + ''Bugged no muzzle flash'' (so the same 2x)
    Example Good, OP: Compensator + ''Bugged no muzzle flash''
    Also a lot of players underestimate the use of flash supps and think they're only useful at night, they're usefull everywhere. Even in building fights since you don't get focused that much. Or even in Indar bright daylight, with muzzle flash your basically a glowing ''shoot at me'' sign. NC people that want to run flash suppressor suffer the most from this and they can have whatever graphic settings since it depends on the other persons settings.
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  4. Mithril Community Manager

    We have a fix currently being tested on PTS.