Barrage is opening new prowler's play-style possibilities.

Discussion in 'PlanetSide 2 Gameplay Discussion' started by EagleEyeDA, Oct 6, 2018.

  1. frozen north

    I realize I should not anticipate the perfect scenario, but conversely, I have fought with and against tank drivers who rarely miss shots. You are certainly correct however. And while on paper, the vanguard undeniably takes the cake, it's also been taking it in practice as of late as well. Perhaps not by as much as the stats suggest, but enough to warrant it's top spot title. The paper stats, as it stands, paint it as being the superior MBT in most cases. If it's running with a gunner ( which it always should be), and has an equivalent build to a prowler with it's shield off cool down, there is no practical way for a prowler to win aside from hoping it's opponent misses a few shots.
  2. grazr

    Do you have those data stats at hand? I know there was a really useful PS2 database that tracked usage and kills of all vehicles/class and weapons; from usage, to time spent equiped, mortality of the vehicle/class with it equiped and % of ownership within a faction. But this was pre-daybreak and i haven't been able to find it.

    If Vanguard's are seeing more kills, less deaths and that those kills are often prowlers (or disproportionately other MBT's in general) then the performance stats can trump any theory and rhetoric being thrown around here.
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  3. csvfr

    There are some stats on dasanfall detailing the turrets themselves, which shows the AP Prowler being markedly superior to both AP Vanguard and Magrider.
    • P2-120 AP: .........KDR = 5.47, KDR-X = 6.37, KPH = 27.6, VKPH = 16.8
    • Titan-150 AP: .....KDR = 4.67, KDR-X = 5.66, KPH = 22, ...VKPH = 14.2
    • Supernova FPC: KDR = 4.63, KDR-X = 5.5, ..KPH = 22.1, VKPH = 14.5
    http://stats.dasanfall.com/ps2/item/3730
    http://stats.dasanfall.com/ps2/item/4008
    http://stats.dasanfall.com/ps2/item/3460

    KDR is kill/death ratio, KDR-X is kill/death ratio for players with auraxium medal, KPH is kills per hour, VKPH is vehicle kills per hour
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  4. frozen north

    Worth noting though that this doesn't track target type. Not saying it's not useful. It very much is useful. But it's not showing data on the thing we're actively discussing.

    Still, colour me impressed that the prowler is topping the general list right now.

    As a side, here's something else I found worth noting:
    Prowler halberd: http://stats.dasanfall.com/ps2/item/4015
    Vanguard halberd: http://stats.dasanfall.com/ps2/item/3709
    Magrider halberd: http://stats.dasanfall.com/ps2/item/3441

    The halberds are the reversal of the stats for the main cannons on each respective tank ( prowler ranks lowest, magrider highest). Not really putting this here as evidence of anything, but it is interesting. Actually, the more I look around, the more it seems this is true across the board with secondaries.
  5. The Rogue Wolf

    So essentially you want the Prowler to be able to stand toe-to-toe with the tank whose primary strength is going toe-to-toe with tanks, and therefore the Prowler would be objectively better than the Vanguard in every other situation.

    Couldn't you just come out and admit that you want your faction's tank to be the best?
  6. grazr

    I wouldn't be surprised that the Prowler secondaries were performing less because the main cannon was performing better. Especially since the Prowlers special ability is offensive in nature compared to the Vanguard's shield which is.... defensive.

    The whole point of the 3 faction system is that it's asymmetrical so you cannot realistically compare the weapons the way you are trying.