pay2Win

Discussion in 'PlanetSide 2 Gameplay Discussion' started by MaKiro2, Sep 10, 2015.

  1. Ballto21

    Cas or go home.

    What the outfit name or strawpoll?
  2. Scorpion97

    PELTER....


    And it's strawpoll
  3. FateJH

    Does that mean that you believe the "end game" is the condition by which a player has unlocked everything available (to a faction, per character)?
  4. Atis

    PS2 marketing is abysmal. No ads, no fancy public moves and even sidegrade weapon mechanics is not accentuated. Whole depot design says "buy everything, its supergood" not "stop being all-rounder grunt, tailor your fixings for your unique spec op playstyle"

    Though some things are P2Wish, like nanites income, implants, camos, making some new guns too good and nerfing after sales drop (dalton), or gating certain playstyles with 1000C wall (SMG). It's much easier to blow up small things out of proportions than non-existent ones. Add +5% effectiveness item and people crywolf like its +100%.
  5. TheRunDown

    I think the underlined problem as a f2p player is there is nothing offered to free players.
    There is no rewards, no incentive, only time and poor exp rates and poor Implant drop rates.

    Even cheap F2P games designed to eat money have a way to keep players around.
    Not forgetting the budget weapons are no longer budget weapons, they cost just as much as any other weapon.
  6. TheDarSin


    My NC character is F2P. The rewards and the incentive is taking part of the fight and having fun. Exp rate is fine. Besides, the only reason why you'd run out of certs is because you keep buying guns before mastering the one you just purchased. It should be simple. You master your weapon, then you move on to the next. The "poor implant drop rate" comment is laughable. I've never run out of energy on my NC character and I'm currently sitting on 50~ regular chargers. The only argument that could be made is that people need to know that you can put a level 3 and a level 2 to make an ultra charger and that's about it and even then I still get plenty of implants.
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  7. Aisar

    The game is definitely not as fun or rewarding without paying money and you don't have the weapons and tools needed to deal with the situations you come up against. If you don't spend money to unlock full sets of wpns for your MAX for example you cannot be anywhere near as effective in different types of engagements.

    This argument has been going since beta and it is so old now. Of course they want you to pay for a sub or buy stuff, if we didn't they wouldn't make enough money. They purposely make cert gain agonizingly slow so you sub. Whether or not you want to support that or play the game is everyone's choice.

    I wouldn't play the game without a sub and without the money I have spent on everything I have unlocked. The cert gain is just too slow.
  8. Taemien

    Every game that is F2P is called Pay to Win if it has any means of a cash shop. Only the ones that are truly free are not.

    Heck we had a thread pop up about a week or so ago saying this was p2w:

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  9. Casterbridge


    Meh people are just blinded by all that freedom.

    (Dear Higby my eyes)
  10. ModsFreeAreForTV

    I down voted it on steam myself. This game is structured like ****, and revolves around situational advantages and disadvantages. Whoever thought that would be a good idea at SOE should be fired, but knowing how SOE's sales were, I think the public pretty much fired them.
  11. TheChris

    Camos are Really Pay2Win.
    No one will recognize that i am TR :D [IMG]
    I guess most of you will agree ;)
  12. Scorpion97

    Dont play then
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  13. FateJH

    [IMG]
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  14. Nregroepis


    Like Stephen Harper:

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  15. Crator

    This dead horse done been beatin' so many times on these forums.
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  16. zaspacer

    While the game does not restrict access to Top Tier items to only to those who pay (besides Implants), there is a huge difference in power level between a starting Free Players and a starting Pay Player. Pay New Players now have a much bigger advantage over Free New Players than at Launch. The game has allowed players to buy more and more different categories of things as the game has matured.


    Buyable at Launch:

    General
    ------------
    XP Bonuses
    Resource Bonuses
    Passive Resource Gain (?)

    Infantry
    -----------
    Camo/Appearance/Sound
    All Primary & Secondary Weapons
    All HA Tools (Rocket Launcher)

    Vehicle
    ----------
    Camo/Appearance
    All Weapons


    Buyable Now:


    General
    ------------
    XP Bonuses
    Resource Bonuses
    Passive Resource Gain
    Implants

    Infantry
    -----------
    Camo/Appearance/Sound
    All Primary & Secondary (Non-Directive) Weapons
    All Infantry Weapon Attachments (Optic, Barrel, Rail, Ammo)
    All HA Tools (Rocket Launcher)
    All Engineer Abilities
    All Melee

    Vehicle
    -----------
    Camo/Appearance
    All Weapons
    All Vehicle Weapon Optics

    Not Buyable Now:

    General
    -----------
    All Leadership Cets

    Infantry
    -----------
    Engineer Tool
    Medic Tool
    Infiltrator Tools
    Suit Slot
    Grenade Slot
    Utility Slot

    Vehicle
    -----------
    Utility
    Defense
    Performance
  17. Thardus

    And... which weapon is "The Best"?