Why we don`t have a Gunship like this? XD

We had Galaxy Gunship like this in PS1. The thing that tore tanks, BFRs and infantry on sight. If we gonna get such thing here... this forum will drown in tears and Liberators won't be ever mentioned as something evil and OP.

Really the liberator is pretty close to the AC-130 in a lot of ways or was pre nerfs.

The AC-130 used to come with a 7.62 mini gun, a 40 MM and 105 MM cannon. The old shredder could have easily replaced the minigun with the added bonus that it was effective vs. armor. The 40 MM would be something like the bulldog or Zephyr and the 105 of course being the Dalton. Granted they have plenty of differences as well, but I think it is more of a different design / same role kind of thing (with the added benefit of being deadly as an AA platform as well.)

Because galaxy and liberators exists.

a good battle gal can have a similar effect

pls gib

Because it would be obnoxious to play against? And liberator is exactly that. And until nerfs it was obnoxious to play against. Just because it looks cool on big screen doesn't mean it would be a good gameplay element.

because it would be borderline OP, not because of the weapons but the gal itself.

why not avatar´s command ship ?

it looks more badass

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We're not allowed to have cool things if it interferes with people's honorable IvI combat.

A real AC-130 would be interesting because it's really only useful if you have complete air superiority and aren't facing significant AA defenses.

Unlike Liberators who kill more aircraft per hour of use than Skyguards, a real AC-130 has no defenses at all against air superiority aircraft. If any modern interceptor or multirole aircraft were to even look at an AC-130, it would probably explode. Too slow to run, too big to be stealthy, too unmanuverable to evade, and too lightly armed with AA to do anything about BVR missiles.

Against ground targets that have any form of AA at all, the AC-130 is similarly toast. Any SPAAG would fry it (older AC-130s could only withstand 37mm hits in some limited parts and the new AC-130J is only armored against LMGs), and obviously vehicle SAMs would swat it out of the sky before it could get in range. Hack, even one soldier with an outdated MANPADs managed to down an AC-130:



This is highly unlike the Liberator, which can tank a whole belt and a half of 40mm Skyguard fire before exploding. Or take several SAMs and fly away like nothing happened.

So yea. Give us AC-130s instead of Liberators. It would be a huge nerf to the Liberators. Essentially making the Liberator as vulnerable as a real AC-130 would help balance the weapon platform.

The in-game files actually list the Dalton being a 105mm cannon and not a 150mm cannon that it is now. Of course that would have put its damage much closer to that of a Lightning's AP cannon than a Vanguards but for some reason they decided to buff the Liberator.

so basically what if a liberator and a galaxy procreated?

I'd be down for it if it took like 5 people to man all the guns, and all the guns were as bad as the valkyries. Also make it so they can't belly up like libs.

You can have one of those, if I can have one of these Mk XXXIII Bolos.

Because our AA weaponry is like this:

The AC-130 is actually a great example of the ultimate farming chariot.

Great for picking on anyone who lacks a decent air force or ground-based AA. But pathetic against people who can actually defend themselves.

This.

No doubt there will be 4 more pages of problematic rubbish and not a single solution.

Hopefully we'll get some new and nice stuff when the resource and base system is sorted/implemented.

Yeah why not?.

750 resources and a 1 hour wait time, maybe more. Make it slow but with a lot of HP.

If its slow then it would have to have backup or just die painfully slow. Have it so it needs a gunner and driver minimum.

I dunno man, those are Hellbore cannons. They measure energy output in megatons per second. The kind of weapon that makes you tingle when you think about it long enough.

PS2 needs this, along with this beast accompanying an AA variant, would be ******* awesome: