If we kill infantry,does that make us farmers by doing so?

Discussion in 'PlanetSide 2 Gameplay Discussion' started by Scr1nRusher, Mar 24, 2015.

  1. Jachim

    This seems like a markedly philosophical question, does it not? Are we not all farmers, deep down inside? Do we not all play this game to simply get certs? What is the meaning of life if you constantly respawn? What is life without an ending? Is this life?
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  2. Onhil

    Well in my mind farming is when you kill lots of people in a short period time with so little downtime it's not even funny.
  3. Iridar51

    GTA is a single player game, feel free to go nuts. In a 100% multiplayer game, some decency wouldn't hurt.

    Why such a strong accent on Sundies? This wasn't what I was talking about. Anyone who spawns at a Sunderer that he knows is under tank fire deserves whatever he gets.

    Lolpod argument - do you even play this game? Or do you spend 100% time in vehicles? Because only that would explain such cluelessness. The whole advantage of lolpods is that an ESF can come out of nowhere, and kill you before you can do anything. The only way to counter it is to spend 100% of playtime staring at the sky with AA weapon ready, and even then it doesn't always work.

    It's not like ESFs come and announce "Warning, we're gonna be farming you 30 seconds from now, prepare your AA or die".
    ESFs come, harvest the crop, and fly away to another field, and then it's a dice roll whether they'll return and you should wait for them with AA weapon, or they don't return and you're just gonna waste your time.
    Sniping in general is pretty farmy, not sure what you're getting at. Its whole concept is to fire from a safe distance.
  4. FateJH

    It's pointless, mind you. The game (GTA) doesn't acknowledge the player's adherence to the "traffic rules" that thinly veil the on-rails behavior of NPC cars. That's why other cars honk when behind you when you stop at a red light - they can't see that you're stopped at the red light, only that you're blocking their pathing, even if it will wind up being stopped at the same position before the red light too. You're actually working against the game by trying to adhere to real world rules of the road.
  5. Devrailis

    Yes it's farming.

    But who cares?

    Does the anti-farming fairy reach out and punch you for:
    • HE farmingthat hill full of infil-bads =>
    • who are snipe farming that cluster of engies =>
    • who are ammo pack farming the heavy-bad crutch-shield spamming HAs =>
    • who are LMG farming the medi-tool spamming medi-ball =>
    • who are medi-tool farming everyone else
    Play the game with the tools that you are given. If you don't want to use a tool because it doesn't suit your tastes, you don't have to. That's the beauty of sandbox games. But don't lose any sleep over whether or not someone else approves/disapproves/iAmDiSApPoInTsOn of your choice of weapons/vehicles.

    Have at least a smiiiidgen of self-esteem and try not to care too much about what some nobody on the other side of a computer screen thinks of your weapon of choice.
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  6. MahouFairy

  7. stalkish

    Id giv up if i were you mah, ive had this discussion before and it boils down to players not wanting to change what they are currently doing to counter what some1 else is doing and then complaining that they died to said player.
    Its actualy pretty pathetic attitude to have tbh, it amounts to kids saying 'its not my fault its their fault' no resposibility is taken for their own actions and instead them dying is blamed on 'lame farmers' id cringe if i wasnt laughing at them so hard.

    Just continue to 'farm' these players with no ability to react or respond to a changing situation, theyl either learn and become greater adversaries giving you more fun when you engage them, or theyl continue to be farmed helplessly and boost your xp/cert gain, either way you come out on top.

    You'll never get them to admit they are simply poor at planetside, theyl hide behind their slanted point of view and throw stats for their personal specialisation at you (and in desperate cases personaly insult you and call in the gramar police in a vain attempt to discredit your argument) but imo anyone complaining about being farmed is **** at the game.
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  8. Iridar51

    You made your post hard to quote. So I'll make mine hard to read. Have fun guessing which part refers to what.

    I don't *need* you to do anything. This thread is about what is considered farming. I provided my opinion to that question. What you do with that - your business and your conscience.

    Myself - yes, actually, I do get out and engage the guy with my primary. It's more challenging and thrilling that way. I do not expect everyone else to do that, but this is what I do.

    Teamwork is all nice and well when it's expected on both ends. For example, in a matched game, like League of Legends, you can say: "it's totally fair to gank 3 v 1, because we're working as a team, and enemy should be doing that as well".

    In an open world game such as PS2, there are players with various levels of organization, and there are completely unorganized solo players. Expecting everyone to be completely coordinated 100% of the time or lose to those who are is not fair.

    Yes-yes, PS2 is a game that truly shines only when played with a group, and coordinated players can pull off some amazing stuff, blah blah. It's all true. But saying "it's your fault for not having 4 friends with lock-ons with you at all times" to everyone gunned down by your Halberd is not right.

    Doing preparations for the threat that may never come is what I call wasting time, yes. I'm not playing PS2 to be a glorified guard in a Disneyland while everyone else is having fun.

    If players could set up automated AA turrets - you could say "it's your fault for not doing that". But we can't, all AA is player-operated. So you can't say: "it's your fault for not willing to stand around for 20 minutes just in case enemy air comes". Expecting anyone to do that is just mental.

    Yes, ESFs can get like 5 guys, then they have to run away. Congrats, they officially farmed these 5 guys, and then went away to farm 5 more guys at a different base. Like I said in my earlier post, "especially when the threat presents itself for the first time".

    Harvesting crop at one field, and then moving to harvest crop at another field is the definition of farming, do you not agree?

    To clarify. If one ESF comes to a base, kills people and stays there for a long time, then it is not farming. It's people unwilling to pull counters. Counters to air are pretty soft, but whatever. They could do something to prevent being killed over and over but they didn't. This isn't farming.

    But we all know that's not how it goes. ESF comes, kills some people, at the first sign of opposition it escapes, and leaves enemy guessing whether it will come back or not.

    I've made a Liberator flowchart awhile back. Libs have been sufficiently nerfed since then, but the flowchart still applies to ESFs for the most part.

    You'll have to clarify your position about sniping, because I don't get it.
  9. Sunflash

    If you are in an ESF and making repeated passes at a hostile spawn-room/sunderer, and blatently ignoring the hostile ESF doing the /exact same thing/ to your side's spawn-room/sunderer; then yes my friend, you are classified as a farmer.

    Its okay however, since I have decided to assume that is the only way you(as an ESF pilot) can get a kill streak of any flavor, and will simply point lock-ons at you until you fly away wimpering.
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  10. MahouFairy

    You hate snipers and ESF and tanks killing people? Have fun getting farmed, while the rest of your fraction cooperates and improvises to avoid getting farmed. I get extreme pleasure watching people cry about getting farmed because they can't be bothered to improve.

    Yes. Teamwork is expected in this game, just like LoL or whatever. If you refuse to cooperate, no problem. Unlike a 5 v 5 game, the actions of 1 solo guy doesn't really make any difference. But just expect to die. A lot. What, you thought your solo efforts actually made a huge difference? Hahaha don't think too highly of yourself.

    (And I said 5 guys at the MOST. I've never really gotten a 5 man group kill. Most of the time it's just 1 salvo to kill one or 2 guys caught in the open. Using a MANA turret to shred through a narrow corridor full of enemies can get you the same result as well, and surprisingly, I've never heard people call it OP or farm.)
  11. Hatesphere

    You are a farmer if you go out of your way to not play the objective and kill infantry you never needed to kill in the first place. Ie. "Don't kill their sunder guys, let's farm them" if you happen to be supporting a push or shooting guys in a battle zone while pushing the point or an enemy sunder. Not farming. It's really simple to understand, why do we need this thread?
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  12. Iridar51

    I don't get why you're bringing emotions into this. They have nothing to do with this thread, which is about what is, and what isn't, farming.

    So you like watching other people suffer? Glad you have shown your true form.
  13. Scr1nRusher

    THe point of the thread is:


    If Killing infantry = Farming

    Then are we all not Farmers?


    We are afraid to be lethal in a game about killing things.
  14. MahouFairy

    Me bringing in emotions? Guess who was the one who said "I will make mine (post) hard to read as well." You still haven't talked about how this game should allow players without teamwork to dominate those who have.

    Some people are just begging to be "farmed". Clustering in chokepoints to the point that anyone could have gotten a group kill with grenades, bulldogs, Lolpods and whatever. Once, I got run over by an enemy sunderer because I was an AI/ AA MAX caught in the open. I've never complained about it. If you were the driver, maybe you would have stopped to get out and pull a MAX to duel with me, but I guess not everyone is that s**pid.
  15. Hatesphere

    if your only definition for farming is simply killing infantry... but thats just you assigning your own definition and or attempting to be satirical.
  16. Scr1nRusher



    My definition?


    Its shared by so many people & its crazy.


    My whole threads point was to bring up & point out how stupid the terminology is.
  17. CursoryRaptor

    If I walk using my posterior, am I not a buttwalker?

    If nobody in the news exaggerates or blows anything out of proportion, is it not opposite day?

    Okay, enough of that. Farming means different things to different people. And quite frankly, what other people think shouldn't matter. If you consider your playstyle to be "farming" and you like it, do it. If other people don't like it, they'll either try to stop you, send you hate tells, or whine on the forums.
  18. Leftconsin

    Yes to all.
  19. Iridar51

    Those are between you and me. But you for some reason keep bringing in emotions between me and what I consider farming, which simply do not matter.
    I don't care what you do and don't. Again, this doesn't matter to the topic.
    I have no idea why you stooped down to petty insults. I guess my post really ruffled your jimmies, for some reason. Suppressed guilt much? Anyway, our argument is over. Have fun and next time don't let something posted on the internet get to you so much.
  20. MahouFairy

    Nothing to do with this? Well, YOU said that running over defenceless people was considered farming. And this thread is about killing infantry equals farming. So...

    Those are between you and me, yes. Were those not emotions as well? 0.o