[Suggestion] Removing Team Kills from K/D

No you don't. Everyone who plays this game has an equal right to their fun. They're doing what they think is the most fun, and you're in the wrong if you try to make them do otherwise. If you can't deal with that, you shouldn't play multiplayer games.

Aww...

I was hoping this would be a thread for suggesting teamkills count as a negative kill, so it's K - TK / D. Incentives like that should help reduce the team kills, even if a little.

As for removing TKs from deaths, no, because the people that repeatedly die to friendlies by standing in doorways or putting
themselves in bad locations should also have that reflected. Again, incentive to be more careful.

Two times I have been TK'd for that.

1) I was in an AA MAX and had just driven off a Lib that had been stopping us recapping in a small battle for about 10 mins (we'd get it back then they'd manage to re-recap whilst the Lib farmed reinforcements trying to get to the point) - I hopped in AA MAX drove it off, stayed at spawn to keep it away as it was the only safe place to engage a Lib from (we had the cap secure now), and got TKd by someone claiming that I should be charging to the cap point with my AA MAX and that I was "worthless".


2) I deployed into a big techplant fight, I moved 5m from spawn checked my map and...... was TKd. I respawned, started to type "Why did you TK m...." and was gunned down again, respawned gunned down, respawned gunned down, respawned else where and messaged "what the #### are you killing me for!?!?".

Got the answer "you shouldn't be in the spawn room idiot".......... I had been in said spawn room 4-5 seconds before he team killed me.




Angry idiots TKing for their own frustration is simply not justifiable.

I have never found someone in the spawn and gotten upset because they weren't out and about catching bullets for me.

And that's what this is.

It's not anger because the person isn't contributing, it's anger because the person isn't an additional target so the potential TKer isn't the sole focus for the enemy.

I understand there is frustration, but to take it out on other players is something that NEVER crosses my mind.

"Hunting" from the spawn has never, ever been an issue in the game.

In the entire time I have played, close to two and a half years, I have rarely ever seen a crowd in the spawn without a reason for not venturing to the point.

Many times these are newer folks as well and actions like this simply add to the perception that the game and its community aren't worth the effort.

TKs should not be counted into the K/D, TKs shouldn't even count as deaths outside of K/D as long as TKs don't count as "kills".

When a metric ton of people are just camping the spawn room and not doing anything to actually win us the base, I just spam smoke. Spamming smoke actually frustrates people enough to either exit the spawn room and maybe the frustrated push will actually win them the base, or they'll leave and go fight at a base where they can actually attack/defend, but I don't TK them.

Not at all. Ever heard of people stupidly jumping into your ____ bullets accidentally or intentionally?
What about the everyday sprinting in front of your moving vehicle and stopping, or trying to surf it?
How about the "revenge" TKs after getting run over on purpose?
When you throw a grenade, ever realize its HE mass creates a badditational field attracting noob particles?

I'm sure people missed this in my earlier post. But here's a TK tracker. Might will help with Ideas regarding OP.

http://planetside.tk/

Eh, most of my teamkills come from people standing downhill from my vehicle. Every now and then the traction just gives out and the vehicle slides completely out of control... or getting rammed by a friendly vehicle, then sliding downhill... I wish the collision detection worked as well on enemies as it did on allies.

There's also an odd bug where sometimes people spawning on a deployed sundy will just instantly die and grant the sundy owner a TK.

Afaik, sitting in a spawn room shooting at tiny heads is not fun.

At the least, it isn't fun for your teammates who were hoping you'd help them take the point back. After all, the point isn't to kill the most dudes - it's to take the most territory. So play the objective and stop hiding.

You get me?

I agree, I don't like that TKs are counted in K/D stats....

Your opinion on what's fun or isn't fun is relevant only to your playstyle. If they prefer to play otherwise, they can do that. What you can't do is try to increase your own fun at the cost of everyone else's, which is what's happening when you try to make everybody assault a point or something when they don't want to. You can try to motivate them, or convince them that what you're doing would be more fun, but you can't punish them for not agreeing with you. That's wrong.

Yes please, easily gets rid of 15% of my deaths!

Hey, I love being a spawn room warrior with my Phoenix!
(It's the only way to guarantee you'll avoid stalker infils during that 7-8 second flight where you can't hear or see or move while piloting the missile. As well, I'm as effective as a HA with a deci on the front lines hitting armor so long as it's within 300m. )

I should add you on friends. The Phoenix is ♥

What server do you play on?
I'm on Connery.

I think it is where the sundy is sliding (usually very slowly) and you get "crushed" by it, as you say it wouldn't be so bad if enemy collision worked 1/2 as well.

All you get with that is aggravation, look at my examples in my post above.

In the first one I'd basically solo rescued the base - and got TK for it.

In the second one I'd been deployed for 5 whole seconds... then got TK 4 times in a row for those 5 seconds.

There is no legitimate motive and no explanation that would convince me otherwise, for TKing people enjoying the game the way they want, on purpose, whether you add insult to injury or not. The same stands for being angered if said TKed people treat you with your own medicine.

I have taken an oath, after getting blown to pieces by the 3rd C4 dropped by some entitled, buzzed Spawn Room Commandante, I will consider PS2 my personal play ground and will kill people who do not abide to MY play style and nurse me, feed me ammunition and escort me while I play.

It is sadly the same logic and if you guys find the prior reasonable, there is nothing holding me back from behaving as I described right above.

Think hard on that before you TK a whole room of people doing their thing, never having wronged you in any way except offending the Tactic4l G3nius that you are.

Edit : Harsh as it sounds, if I were to play from a Net Café and a person next to me TKed the whole room for not obeying them, I'd get up and plant my boot to the back of their head, driving their face through the screen in front of them as far in as I can. To me these people are the epitome of stupid, if I can bear Engineers standing next to me not repairing my MAX after 5' of me begging, these people can suck it up and REDEPLOY.

Aww damn. I'm on Emerald.