How Auraxis would look if the War Stopped and an Empire took over?

Discussion in 'PlanetSide 2 Gameplay Discussion' started by G.O.A.T, May 27, 2014.

  1. Regpuppy


    Judging by the effects on Briggs (it both cured his mental disability and showed him visions of Vanu) long term exposure to the Vanu relics for 100+ years could have some... unforeseen consequences.
  2. Epic High Five


    TR had the planet and mismanaged it so poorly that it splintered into 3 factions that are now in a never-ending war with each other

    Because the TR blew up the peace talks

    And also they instituted 200 years of martial law

    And also they attempted to force the VS to modify the rebirthers to selectively sterilize whoever they saw fit to sterilize

    I think it would probably be more like 1984. Because they did control everything. And it was like 1984


    By this reasoning the long term consequences of Vanu exposure is suicide

    Also if they're so great why are they all dead

    FREEDOM WOOOOO GO NC!
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  3. DrPapaPenguin

    Nice try, but we all know that this awaits us if VS win:

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  4. Ronin Oni

    Possibly, official lore is unfortunately lacking in much explanation for much.

    They leave far to much to the discretion of players to make up which leaves a very unclear picture as miscellaneous players come up with their own fabrications that sound more like faction propaganda for their mains home faction. (case in point: the OP)

    And actually, I can't even keep straight what was PS1 lore (which was a bit more fleshed out) and what's been "official" PS2 lore which was re-canon'ed. Prime example, the assassination of Connery was definitely in PS1 lore, but I'm not sure if PS2 kept that or just left that as a "mystery" in PS2.

    In one sense, I suppose it allows for players to "blind themselves" by creating preferable canon for their own belief, which is likely what members of that faction would believe anyways... but it seems there should be an official real story here.

    And as far as that's concerned, IMO no faction should be "right". Leaders of all 3 factions should be, according to officially lore, manipulative, deceitful, power hungry bastids... that is really the only canon that would sound and feel real to me. (what, me a cynic?)
  5. Epic High Five


    PS2 lore revealed that Connery was assassinated by Waterson in a bid to get control of the TR. It worked, and in a bid to get control of everything else he instituted lots of horrible things and 200 years of martial law and was basically the master villain of this whole backstory. Pretty much the TR are the unambiguous bad guys this time around.

    The VS and NC were probably bros up until the VS were forced to take arms and weren't in a position to share resources with the NC. That's war ya know, I fully expect we'll be at peace with those suspicious pony lovers whenever we get around to scouring every last TR soldier off the face of Auraxis and giving their populace the choice of freedom and technology or their next death being their last.
  6. Ronin Oni

    It never did explain why NC and VS fight....

    Really, PS2 should be VS 15%, NC 35%, TR 50% in a VS and NC together but uncoordinated vs TR fight... with maybe minor border/resource skirmishes.

    NC and VS really don't have a bone with each other and, according to lore, have little reason to fight each other. They're both trying to fight against TR tyranny.

    NC see VS as zealots, and VS see NC (soldiers) as corporate pawns... but that's little reason to be at full war with each other when confronted with a bigger common enemy.

    Of course, for gameplay, 1v1v1 is best and the most interesting (when it works o_O damn players. Continental lattice should fix this... in several months :( ) so screw what's canon or what makes sense.
  7. Epic High Five


    Resources, basically. Right now it's every faction for itself and the winner will be determined by whoever controls the resource flow the best. The pre-existing connections between the VS and NC were both not strong enough to allow either to trust the other enough to risk the future of their faction and, most importantly, all of the peace-minded of both factions were murdered by the TR when the ship they were holding peace talks on was blown up by Waterson.

    I think the NC also felt like the VS couldn't be trusted when it turned out they were developing military tech for the TR. Considering that the VS's refusal to fully militarize (aka to make it kill people instead of making it so their people didn't die, etc) a lot of it put them to war with the TR in the same swoop, it wasn't a very strategic ploy on their part. Knowing the TR though, it was either that or be annihilated.
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  9. CrashB111

    Except that the TR on Earth are not fascist in the least, and should the Auraxius TR regain control and get contact reestablished we could all return to the utopia the TR brought to Earth millennia ago.

    No war, no famine, no strife. All are equal under the ideal socialism, everyone is brother and sister in arms and competes not for anything. The Earth TR are literally the best civilization man has ever known, with nobody being excessively wealthy and nobody being excessively poor.

    Its only because of you dirty cultists and rebels that we have had to resort to tough love.

    Did you ever look up PS2 lore, or are you just spouting reconned PS1 stuff?

    The TR were mellowed out much more by PS2. Nobody is an "unambiguous bad guy" anymore, everyone is different shades of grey with the TR being the lightest just because they only had to crack down to preserve law and order after everyone got stranded and they didn't want chaos to break out. Then the VS panic when the TR reveal they want to keep the Rebirthers tightly controlled until they can be studied and understood more so that people won't try to abuse them or misuse the Vanu tech (which ironically the VS end up doing EXACTLY THAT). And the NC take the opportunity to pay their private army of mercenaries and criminals to try and take control for 100% capitalism to rob all the people of their wealth and send it to their corporate overlords.
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  11. Ronin Oni

    No, TR were killing peace talkers and inciting war in the first place.

    Peace by annihilating anyone who doesn't agree mentality.

    Maybe that is how earth TR got power? If so their roots are just as dirty. (wouldn't surprise me given past tendencies.) though achieving full peace sounds impossible by such means, as how could any such system ever exist without dissenters from remembrance eventually revolting?
  12. KnightCole


    TR would be just like Communism now, Russia, China, the like....and eventually they would have another massive war.

    NC would be like the USA and other greedy nations whose only goal is to make the all mighty dollar. Low quality everything, pretty much an exact copy of the modern day USA

    VS would be like the die hard extremist Hamas and all them.....Amish? live church, breathe church, nothing but church....another boring *** life style of nothing but prayer at 7am, fast till lunch, more prayer....lol.

    None of the governments would be worth a crap.
  13. that_darn_lurker

    Life under VS rule I give a 50/50 chance of being a complete utopia or complete distopia. There's no middle ground, its either one extreme or another. The human society consciousness would form a singularity through the use of alien technology. What tips the scale is determined by who runs the society at the top. If its run by an autocrat, then life for the average person devolves into mind-control slavery. But if decision making power is more democratic, then humanity transcends into a permanent utopian society.
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  14. Exalted Exile

    Honestly a government led by the VS would be a lot like the Warhammer 40k Imperium of Man

    The Imperium of Man is a galaxy-spanning interstellar human empire, the ultimate authority for the majority of the human race in the Milky Way Galaxy in the 41st Millennium AD. It is ruled by the living God who is known as the Emperor of Mankind. The founder and ruler of the Imperium is the god-like Emperor of Mankind. The Emperor continues, at least nominally, to rule the Imperium as both its political master and its primary religious figure, though His badly damaged body is interred within the cybernetic life support mechanisms of the arcane device known as the Golden Throne.

    Taken from (Imperium of Man) here. Not into 40k just know this tidbit.
    As for the other factions others have already come up with better ideas than I could.
  15. Alarox

    I take it you're one of the people who think, "the corporations are out to get me man, fight the system!" but are willing give a group of government officials total control over every aspect of your life.

    Corporations can't make you do anything. Your government can put a gun to your head if you don't listen.

    How do you fight corporations? Don't buy from them.
    How do you fight authoritarian governments? Guns and freedom.
  16. Alarox

    I don't know man, I'm pretty sure us US citizens have access to the highest quality technology and the highest standard of living overall.
  17. G.O.A.T

    Fact: TR brought Peace and prosperity to Earth.

    Actual quote from the lore

    So their roots arn't dirty at all...They are the best of humanity has to offer, they rapidly evolved humanity thru amazing human tech/ingenuity


    As for they supposedly killed connery, Im not 100% that isn't propaganda via NC.

    Either way they are surrended by Corporation back Army who wants to slave humanity and Alien tech nut jobs who don't want to study the Vanu tech but instead just use it(there leader even committed suicide for unknown reasons).


    TR is doing the logical thing....They are stranded surrounded by greedy/Religious nutjobs.....Of course they need curfews in place, specially after the insurgent attacks they got!!!!!!!!!!
  18. G.O.A.T

    It's quite clear that the NC "Government" it's just corporate shills meaning they are a government that is in favor of corporations.



    Sorry but I want Corporations to be regulated......Not be free to do whatever the hell they want like NC wants to do.

    I don't want sweatshops,underaged kids working,slavery,etc, all in the name of corporations.

    TR has already proven they can handle Corporations and make humanity prosper.

  19. Alarox

    Assuming the TR back on Earth were good, the TR you guys serve now have nothing in common but name. Your officials even murdered Connery and blew up an entire ship just to frame the NC.

    https://www.planetside2.com/news/may102012story
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  20. Ronin Oni

    GOAT has taken faction loyalty to a whole new level :p