The problem is that yes, some people do want to dps as a berserker, and yes some people do want to tank as a berserker. Not to beat a dead horse, but if you look at the description of the class it makes it seem that you can somewhat flip a switch and choose if you want to tank or dps. After these changes we are going to be low dps, and 3rd or 4th in tanking without any real ability to sacrifice defense and gain dps. Most berserkers are saying they just want to do good dps with a sacrifice to tanking, or either good tanking with a sacrifice to dps. Not the best in either one. If conjurors and necromancers can flip a switch to move from the 3rd group to the 2nd group, why can't berserkers also get a switch to move from the 4th group to the 3rd group? As much as people want to dismiss it, the outdated description basically says we can do that. When I made my choice as a berserker, I read the forums that said we could do outstanding dps and tank very well, and I looked at the description of the class. Now after the changes that description will be completely inaccurate. I understand that we were overpowered, and needed to be tweaked. The main thing I don't understand is all of the other classes saying that we should be forced into a role that doesn't fit the description of our class. I just don't understand why we can't have a way to move up the dps chain by moving down the defense chain? Again, we aren't asking to move from the best tank to the best dps, just from (ok dps/good tank) to (good dps/ ok tank).