Hey Guardian here got sick of reading so many negative posts in the guard forumn. Kfizzle, from my EQ 1 raiding, havent raided much or at all in EQ 2, but i take it its the same concept. During a raid its not about going full blown DPS. If your surprised you pulled aggro, you shouldnt be. Ask scouts or mages if they go full blown, I'm sure they will tell you they have learned to hold back. I'm alo sure wizards dont nuke as soon as the raid target is engaged, unless they get a lot of aggro debuffs. Also about the AoE stuff guards get. I'm 55 and to the best of my knowledge here goes. We have Protect at 50 which is a AoE taunt, no damage. Then we get our AoE taunt - attack which isn't encounter limited. Topple being our only true AoE attack. Anchor is a nice abilitie which is aoe. It lowers the DPS and HASTE of mobs by a % and roots the mobs. Only set back is the debuff is linked to the root so if the root breaks, and it tends to within a few seconds we wave goodbye to the debuff. We as guardians only get one more defensive buff over you guys. It's the wall of might line. It roots us and steps up our mitigation for like 30 secs and has a chance to proc root on mobs if they hit us. The reason most guards are advocating more dps is because we have been told were not gonna be what we were pre lu13. To be honest screw dps i could care less. I rolled a Guardian because i wanted and have always wanted in all MMOs to have the most defense and or mitigation because i luv tanking. I know we get the highest mitigation but its nothing to brag about. Im happy. I handle group encounters fine. Havent had a pissing contest with a berzerker but hey why would i need to if one of us is designated an MT. I personally would like a small hike in mit to make up for our lame dps to make up for the balancing of all tanks. I mean, not sure wherei heard this, but i hear guards in offensive stance do less dps then bezerkers in defensive and i think they didnt mean AoE damage. Anywho if we cant get a defensive hike then i would LOVE some of our protective abilities tweaked. Atm yes we do manage to increase the overall damage the groups take but we spread it around. We dont get a hate transfer just a permanent hate debuff we can place on an ally. I hear bezerkers can revive wow that blew my mind and didnt believe it till my friend did it. We get sentry watch awesome ability but havent gotten a chance to use it yet hehe. Oh maybe make intercept have a bigger protecting radius. I hate inching over to the caster who grabbed aggro. Plus im sure guards are mostly raid MTs now because it must be a hard habit to break. Im sure bezerkers can fill the raid spot as well as pallies and SKs. Not sure about monks or bruisers. Or its simply that old motto, if it aint broke dont fix it. Raid leaders have been using guards since forever so why change.