Who was Mayong's Lover?

Discussion in 'History and Lore 2' started by Lidahn, Jun 2, 2022.

  1. Lidahn Lady of Light And Crystalline Hydromancer

    i only supposed based on what players had been talking since i still havent played the VOV Timeline
    but yes the plane of undeath is pretty much non existent and i believe anashti sul is currently existing in the fountain of life or i forgot the name of her temple or house or city..............ah the silent city? i think silent hill....well where else she would be? there's some sort of plane where gods stay if they dont have any planar domains?
    it would be required in the least another god to give a portion of their plane for her to reside but there's no god willing to join forces with her as far as i know......bertuxxulous is not a option in spite of their similliar roles now...undeath and disease walk together but anashti still believes herself to be health incarnate... and bertuxxulous is an enemy for sure to her...as is rodcet nife and along with the other good gods none of them would join forces with her so it leaves only innoruuk and the hounds but it seems unlikely.....
    there's only few neutral gods but karana is mostly good team now and brell serillis doesnt seem an option
    veeshan is away always...who else who else?
    not solusek ro,not the tribunal they probably would sentence her to the eternal prisons as druzzil ro cellmate not the elemental gods, maybe: luclin maybe: terris thule , maybe: cazic thule ? what you guys think?
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  2. Schmetterling Well-Known Member

    no Qho Augren might have been a pain in the behind as a child, but he grows up into a fine young man and you can hire him as a monk mercenary, and now you can send him of to his doom, finally some payback :p:D evil grin.
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  3. tasnee Well-Known Member

    I can just see his mother blaming your character too. In which case I would laugh and tell her he deserves what he got and to stop crying and deal with the truth that her son was a spoiled brat . :D.

    Rubs hands together in delight*
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  4. tasnee Well-Known Member

    Karana never acted neutral in my opinion. His enemy in the deity quest line you do for him is even Bertoxx. He just reminds me too much of a god for fury’s that didn’t want to take the Tunare road. I don’t understand why he’s neutral in the story. Maybe I’m missing something.
  5. Jesaine Active Member

    You could toss all that into the "Neutral Good" category ala AD&D. Everything nature is about balance though, and it's pretty easy to see Bertoxx is hardly about balanced application of his sphere of influence to cull the old and weak, etc... Bertoxx would happily turn Norrath into a graveyard or plague ward from my understanding. Ergo trying to push back against that, even to maintain a balance, could be seen as "good".
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  6. tasnee Well-Known Member

    True, I suppose nature is the opposite of plague and death too. No matter what kind of nature it is.
  7. Cusashorn Well-Known Member

    A dev once spoke up about this in the past, but the deity of a "neutral" domain doesn't have to have a neutral personality themselves.

    In both EQ1 and EQ2, Karana takes a rather reluctant role to get himself involved with the affairs of mortals. In EQ1, he had his Staff of Thunder stolen from him from a greater planar being named Agnarr, and you had to destroy this false god parading himself around as Karana himself in order to restore balance in his own planes. In EQ2, he's reluctant to join the Celestial Order, but knows that Lanys T'Vyl is a genuine threat to existence.

    Sullon Zek is one of the three Hounds of War who rules over the objectively evil domain of War, but Sullon herself is considered neutral because her ascension has everything to do with herself fighting for herself. She sides with Lanys because she feels she's not being taken seriously by Tallon and Vallon Zek. While she does fight against Quellious and Morrel Thule in the great battle, she knows to get the heck out of there before the Dresolisk is detonated.

    Solusek Ro is the neutral God of the Sun & Flames. Fire is destructive, but it's ultimately a force of nature that also brings life from the ashes. It can't be classified as evil by itself, but Solusek is one of the most selfish and arrogant gods in the entire pantheon. He created the Serpentspine Mountains on the continent of Tunaria pretty much out of spite, and the Eldar Forest ended up turning into the Desert of Ro, and the Elves had to migrate to Faydwer because of it. During the Plane of Time, he said "Screw this, I'm out of here" and bolted off back to his tower instead of sticking around to fight off the mortals. He willingly sided with Rallos Zek in order to start the Second Rallosian War because... reasons, and he sided with the Celestial Order along with his father Fennin Ro to fight off Lanys T'Vyl. He's a wildcard who can hardly be trusted, but his domain is still neutral.
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  8. Jesaine Active Member

    Disease and death, kept in balance, are part of nature also. Bertoxx is just of an all or nothing kind of deity. :D
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  9. Jesaine Active Member

    All of that was reasonably sound logic. HOWEVER, while a "mythological" deity's personality isn't strictly dictated by their "sphere of influence" (to borrow the AD&D term), it IS largely influenced by it. They are living embodiments of what they represent or rule over. Give me ANY god from any pantheon and I can dissect their behavior and show how it fits within their role in the society that worshipped them.

    Thor, for example, in classic myth, had quite a temper... a tempestuous one even, lol. That and his love of battle was characteristic of the storms he ruled over.

    I don't want to ramble here. My point is that the Devs seem to be pushing the boundaries of humanizing cosmic beings. Taken too far, it can become like Aphrodite lamenting that she's seen as only a **** and deciding to become a celestial nun. It'd never happen because it goes against her basic nature as a passionate being.

    Even Marvel's version of Thor still has that scrappy, loves a good fight or party aspect to him, and just a little arrogance still as well. He's more 3 dimensional, but ultimately still true to the Norse myths. :)
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  10. Lidahn Lady of Light And Crystalline Hydromancer

    well he was enemies with disease for aeons......possibly prior to Bertoxxulous arrival he was enemies with the Xul'Varien that's only theory of course since there's not a lot of lore about the old dead gods and their relationship with the other non mentioned gods....by far the only current god with an confirmed relationship with the dead gods is Anashti Sul....and her sullites followers having a presence in the Ever Deep.

    (there's Brell Serilis too but he's barely in the current story we only know that he created the dhalgar in thalumbra and there are Kobolds around trying to enter to the Underfoot).
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