What's up with hate mages?????

They tinkered some mage classes around resets and now there gone they could use a bit of a change to even them out . I kinda wish they would lose the whole stack idea with wiz/warlock I just find it mind numbingly boring when ever I jump on mine.

You clearly havent played beastlord and in that case your ignorance is forgiven. Cant cast my primals when fervor proc goes off at start of fight while i have 0 savagery. Same issue as Wizard but faster to build on ST as beastlord but faster to build on AE for Wizard

Yes i do have a beastlord and if it wasn't for Tithe I would probably be playing it, Clearly you don't know how to play a Beastlord because you can start every fight with max savagery regards of how long it takes to pull the mob or wipes etc. As for build stacks tell me how many Named AE fights there are? not many because as lat expansion proved with the Psionists the lag is just to bad.

I see mages complaint about no fervor wayyy more than scout say we don't have double CA status on our gear. I think every single scout would be HAPPILY to give up fervor rune for 100 CA double cast, note that, its CA only!! just like you mages spell double cast. If you are losing to scout by 50% you need to consider playing something else cuz you aren't getting it.

Simply leave the project and will not cry for the mages. I did it immediately after the first edits of the summoners. Nerves spared and I feel great. Unfortunately EQ2 has slipped to the worst MMO where there is no at least some sane balance classes. Very sorry about the loss of money and time for a new addon.

Or ya know what would also be grand would be simply to adjust the mechanics of swarms so they dont lag the raid. I dont mean to be rude here but im sick to death of people like you trying to either get swarms adjusted so low they arent worth casting..or everything else adjusted up to accomplish the same. Its not like summoners have a ton of buttons to mash as is..stop trying to take 3 of them away from us with your ridiculous suggestions. How bout we just do a major overhaul on the abilities and fix them the right way.

As for mages getting 100% fervor every 30sec I can honestly say since that mechanic was added and i was priveleged enough to obtain it in the form of aura of immolation it has added a level of complexity to gameplay that is welcome in my book. I think all those scouts that have been trained to time well with it over the last two years would probably find gameplay dull without it.

That said would I like to see all players be able to take advantage of it? Yes. Would further balancing have to happen if all got it? Probably. But as anything else there are those that are good at utilizing the proc and those that are horribad. Whether the proc is removed, rendering gameplay less complex and more bland, or if it is made more universal to all classes, balancing needs to be done based on equally skilled players and thats a mighty tricky thing to gauge these days in eq2 with differences in tithe etc.

Why is it that every time someone has an issue with their particular class or class rewards or ascension abilities the noob screams for a nerf to beastlords? Why not LTP? There are plenty of other classes out there that are out parsing beastlord's and if you are not one of them then find said class and attempt to learn what they are doing. Are better yet go play WoW? At least there the whining will be with peers that act that age.

NO TRUER WORDS COULD HAVE EVER BEEN QUOTED. Wish this could be stickied to the top of the post !!

A crappily played scout with eth runes will outparse a well played mage with eth runes. Sad fact.

You can have CA doublecast if you let me cast 3 spells per second.

Anjel, cmon dude, I am one that does not ask for class nerfs, but seriously lets really look over the past 6 months, about 90% of the nerf posts have not been about beastlords, it has been about summoners and summoner swarm pets, etc. I have seen more whining about summoners than I have seen about beastlords. I have yet to see not one nerf specifically directed at beastlords from DBG, yet have seen at least 6-7 different direct nerfs to summoners in all kinds of variety. If you are truly honest with yourself, you know and I know beastlords are truly the flavor of the xpac and really the previous xpac next to summoners before the recent huge nerfs to the class. As a matter of fact a great deal of previous summoners switched to beastlords so they can top the parse. Its not anything new and definitely is not about anyone learning to play or LTP as you are stating it. I am not asking for a nerf of beastlords or anything to that fact, but to get on the forums and state what you did above is just a bit over the top. And if someone is outparsing the beastlord, then I think the real quote should be for the BL to LTP, especially with the recent nerf to hammer and reset runes. Those recent nerfs had a dramatic impact on summoners, not to mention the nerf to swarm pets.

Again, I do not wish for any class to be nerfed. There are already enough nerfs going around, I am only stating, saying everyone is hollering for nerfs to beastlords is just not correct.

Looks like short term memory works best when you have no other options. Reading is fundamental Gigs ... on one has to do is pull up the said post created by said classess and read it for yourself. Or maybe there is a video out there with it mentioned for the clinically stupid.

And in case you skipped reading this :

Errrrorrrr : Minor tweaks to BL's would bring them back down to same level as Predators.

beastlords currently better Predators 30-40%, with regard to the backlog of magicians still greater than 90%

A Mage that try to think he is well played you mean. Soon many mages out there doing well enough

You do know that short cooldown spell Mage have a much higher damage rating than scout, ur spell are also not directional, no stealth requirement. And the fact mages are not parsing behind scout, it's people playing parsing behind other people. There are many respectful mages on hof that trashes scout with current gear

For starters sorcerers have directional spells so you're incorrect there, as for reuse most bigger dps spells are not under a minute. Summoners are in a pretty good place atm, Sorcerers on the other hand are not!

Yea I totally forget about fushion. And yea it's a balance between sorc and summ not scout.

How hard does your Daggerstorm hit? How often is it up? Is it directional? No?

Point is most of the mage spells that actually hit for anything worth while are on a lot longer cooldown and now we dont even have a reset rune to help mitigate that. As someone pointed out, plenty of mage spells are actually directional, and cant just be fired off willy nilly.

Seriously though CA doublecast would effectively double your DPS assuming you got up to 100%.

Unda anyone?