Varsoon Itemization still not up to par

Discussion in 'General TLE Discussion' started by Revvix, May 26, 2022.

  1. Revvix Well-Known Member

    I posted about this in the TLE Itemization thread and the beta forums but there's been no confirmation or reply that this is going to be addressed so I'll state it here again now that these are officially launched bugs. Some kind of acknowledgement from Daybreak that these issues will be addressed in the near future would be great so the new Varsoon server can have a healthy end-game for the next few months. I don't mean to badger, but I believe these fixes are critically important to the whole community on the server and there's been no confirmation yet these are getting fixed.

    First, let's discuss Nek2. This zone was revamped on beta to be the new, and only, level 50 heroic content for the Varsoon TLE server instead of Icy Dig. Icy Dig was gutted, so now Nek2 is all we've got to farm and form groups for. The itemization in this zone still needs a lot of polishing. From our experience last night:
    1. Over half of the items that dropped were level 40 and level 1, not 50. I would estimate that 100% of the trash mob drops are broken, and maybe 20% of the named drops are broken like Chalandria's Fang.
    2. A named, Bishop Cephas, didn't drop a chest at all.
    3. The unique feature of the zone, the keys & clickable chests, don't work.
    4. There are items so broken they look like this...
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    These level 50 Raid Zones are also still missing itemization updates so they properly drop level 50 items instead of level 40:

    Spirits of the Lost
    Drakota Sash
    Drakota Band
    Everlasting Fortification
    Krakan’s Wary Protector
    Balanced Sai
    Catalyst's Spellwoven Gloves of Channeling
    Forced Emblem of Twisted Metal
    Catalyst's Spellwoven Gloves of Channeling
    Forced Ringlet of Twisted Metal
    Ice-forged Satchel
    Maul of Mysterious Runes
    Ripper of Ruin
    Serpent Hilted Katana
    Skirmisher's Bloodstained Gauntlets of the Ardent
    Theurgist's Sanctified Plate Gloves of Judgment
    Wanderer's Wand of Divinity
    Wandering Healer's Torque
    Wandering Stalker's Torque
    Blackguard's Blood-Dyed Chain Gloves of Woven Shadow
    Consussive Wand of Blasting – Sussy Baka
    Disciple's Dark Silk Hand Wraps of the Dragon
    Diviner's Ghostly Handguards of Visions
    Fierce Katar
    Forced Ring of Twisted Metal
    Forced Signet of Twisted Metal
    Magical Sai
    Nightmace
    Walking Stick of the Spry Undertaker
    Wandering Defender's Torque
    Wandering Medium's Torque
    Watcher's Rare Hide Leather Gloves of the Wild

    Venekor in The Temple of Cazic Thule
    Bangle of Invulnerability
    Cires Earring
    Girdle of Escape
    Wristguards of the Axebringer
    Irradiated Chestguard of the Black Knight
    Yktrl's Slippers of Fate
    Stone Imbued Chestguard
    Gloves of Madness
    Insidious Leggings
    Elemental Censer
    Enchanted Gold Round Shield
    Aegis of Alacrity
    Sparkling Buckler
    Idol of Focus
    Mace of the Endless Storm
    Defrauders Dirk

    The Cove of Decay: Epic Angler
    Necklace of Doom
    Grim Warrior's Blade
    Underworld Bracelet
    Royal Great Flail
    Giant Blunted Dirk


    Knubed in Permafrost
    Archons Bracers of Light
    Band of Exile
    Necklace of Displacement
    Rigid Steel Warhammer
    Round Shield of the Archon
    Sharlian Maul
    Ankh of Minokis
    Band of Detection
    Girdle of the Overlord
    Ironfist Knuckles
    Necklace of the Four Jesters
    Ritualists Gloves
    Torque of the Great Storm


    The Crypt of Vox
    Archons Bracers of Light
    Thunderstone Amulet
    Wand of the Living Flame
    Greatstaff of the Windwalker


    The Isle of Refuge: Darathar's Flight
    Charmed Rapier
    Greatstaff of the Windwalker
    Leggings of the Elder
    Charmed Rapier
    Vicious Sai


    The loot from the following quests/raid instances are also not scaled properly for level 50: https://eq2.zam.com/wiki/Category:EQ2_City_Task_Raids
    These encounters are designed to drop armor patterns which players then take back to the guild quartermaster in the city to turn in for legendary rewards. However, the level 50 patterns are rewarding level 40 armor pieces instead of level 50 pieces. Would be great to see this fixed so guilds have a reason to use this raid prep content.
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  2. Menludiir New Member

    Good work Revvix, hopefully this gets attention :)
  3. Mint Loot Meddler

    Thanks Revvix
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  4. Revvix Well-Known Member

    The following are still dropping from level 53+ Epic encounters in various T5 raid zones but mostly in Spirits of the Lost. I would say 2/3 of the loot we obtained tonight was level 40 instead of 50. This is all the stuff we were left with after distributing the viable gear.

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  5. Zenji Well-Known Member

    We did Spirits of the Lost last night as well, out of 30+ item drops at least half were level 40 fabled with no blue stats or had such low amounts of blue stats they were unusable.
  6. boho Member

    Seeing the same here, asked the guild for samples for this thread.

    Mint - also a minor request - the raid chests often cough up rare gathers, which seem kind of superfluous given how common most rare gathers are. What we could really use is rare food gathers (e.g. Elixia Pepper at T5) and maybe ~10 dust for mastercrafted potions (luminous dust at T5). One Elixia Pepper feeds and waters a raid for just 45 minutes and they're ungodly rare as a gather. 10 dust produces roughly an hour of stat potions and replenishment for 2 utility potions per raider.

    Any other rares are just another drop of water in a massively oversaturated market and honestly would be better off converted to ~5-10g each for the split.

    Also, last note since this might be one of the few places any eyes get on the subject: Shards and Hearts distribution alone is accounting for about 20% of our time on a 20-30 minute 9 milllion HP progression encounter. With that much HP in progression gear, everybody needs a Heart and Shard. For the sake of example, if you run 2 of each Summoner, that's still six minutes of distribution every attempt due to the 30 second cooldown, the fact Hearts/Shards can't be cast on the move, and the baffling change to make them disappear on zoning. Please make raidwide Heart/Shard spells available at 50!
  7. Zenji Well-Known Member

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    From Spirits of the Lost
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  8. Squeeze Member

    Below is a list of low level gear that my guild has come across while doing level 50 heroic instances. Some of the gear is level 40, some 30, and some even level 1. We would appreciate it if you could take a look at these items, Mint.

    Raid and contested gear post coming soon.

    The Oratorium of Thyr
    Flame Lord Thyr
    - Thunderstone Amulet (\aITEM 1434938486 -121759439:Thunderstone Amulet\/a)
    - Ebon Double Headed Axe (\aITEM -1831052701 75963725:Ebon Double Headed Axe\/a)
    - Plated Bracer of Thyr (\aITEM 1124638836 1359017688: Plated Bracer of Thyr\/a)

    Maiden's Gulch: Rescue of the Sage
    Vyr'drais the Vicious
    - Vyr'drais Claw (\aITEM 38301168 -1718601585:Vyr\'drais Claw\/a)
    - Flame-tested mail (\aITEM -819018119 1692970162:Flame-tested mail\/a)
    - Lava Drenched Ebon Torque (\aITEM 1762991415 -2090504316:Lava Drenched Ebon Torque\/a)

    Maiden's Gulch
    Lava Born
    - Magma Forged Greatsword (\aITEM -648727537 1539506946:Magma Forged Greatsword\/a)
    - feywood great staff (\aITEM -761749542 -139551222:feywood great staff\/a)
    - magma forged greatflail (\aITEM 1530827457 -1162635138:magma forged greatflail\/a)
    - magma forged tower shield (\aITEM -1822336091 -1118215622:magma forged tower shield\/a)

    The Bastion of Flames
    Efreeti Lord Djarn
    - Solusek Efreeti Turban (\aITEM -1513254440 895862009:Solusek Efreeti Turban\/a)
    - Orb of Flowing Lava (\aITEM 191671027 -1404455695:Orb of Flowing Lava\/a)

    The Sanctum of Fear
    Fright
    - black ebon chainmail gloves (\aITEM -1449224704 1153090820:black ebon chainmail gloves\/a)

    Overlord Um Nix
    - Dark Javelin of the Seeker (\aITEM -347770941 2096520642: Dark Javelin of the Seeker\/a)
    - Rubicite Vanguard Spaulders (\aITEM -686820547 -355689588:Rubicite Vanguard Spaulders\/a)
    - rubicite vanguard barbute (\aITEM -153561553 1656210503:rubicite vanguard barbute\/a)
    - Sash of the Divine (\aITEM -447256668 1286795948:Sash of the Divine\/a)

    Miragul's Menagerie
    Sulon McMoor
    - Ancient Tower Shield (\aITEM 2065825073 -1682485426:Ancient Tower Shield\/a)

    The Sanctum of Fire (The Vault of Flames)
    Noble Dojorn
    - Flamesilk Robe (\aITEM -1861820998 -1107490564:Flamesilk Robe\/a)
    - Ethereal Barbute of Accuracy (\aITEM 829505697 -435182219:Ethereal Barbute of Accuracy\/a)
    - Ebon Rapier (\aITEM -1428618350 14664275:Ebon Rapier\/a)
    - Ebon Battlehammer (\aITEM 314612067 -310046093:Ebon Battlehammer\/a)
    - sol weave cowl (\aITEM -1889108567 2081360370:sol weave cowl\/a)
    - Magma Forged Double Headed Axe (\aITEM 1579976937 369369587:Magma Forged Double Headed Axe\/a)
    - Crystal Sphere (\aITEM 702863104 147057717:Crystal Sphere\/a)
    - Templar's Band (\aITEM -1069901877 -1433209182:Templar\'s Band\/a)
    - Steelsung Hauberk (\aITEM 615304764 -2036652628:Steelsung Hauberk\/a)
    - Hard Rock Hammer (\aITEM -692140004 669086311:Hard Rock Hammer\/a)
    - Earring of Flight (\aITEM -937815323 -43518852:Earring of Flight\/a)
    - Hard Rock Breastplate (\aITEM 977948385 1064006703:Hard Rock Breastplate\/a)
    - Holy Warrior's Band (\aITEM -1116940747 751498062:Holy Warrior\'s Band\/a)
    - Pious Belt (\aITEM 1042009415 1332491069: Pious Belt\/a)
    - Ridged Stiletto (\aITEM -123121283 -1129368821:Ridged Stiletto\/a)
    - Obsidian Choker (\aITEM 1856291759 1155175797:Obsidian Choker\/a)
    - Lavatouched Gloves (\aITEM -892649349 -242864270:Lavatouched Gloves\/a)
    - Bangle of Offense (\aITEM -811984423 926849076:Bangle of Offense\/a)
    - Lava Hanging (\aITEM 447023929 842083197:Lava Hanging\/a)
    - Caller's Hoop (\aITEM 1781007567 -1014400102:Caller\'s Hoop\/a)
    - Hard Rock Blocker (\aITEM -507171440 -535378746:Hard Rock Blocker\/a)
    - Obsidian Breastplate (\aITEM 893482267 1067480790:Obsidian Breastplate\/a)
    - Waistband of Haste (\aITEM -83741329 -1319312408:Waistband of Haste\/a)
    - Stone Apprentice Gi (\aITEM -1054609722 -945428956:Stone Apprentice Gi\/a)
    - Lavafied Band (\aITEM -1830653678 -290990391:Lavafied Band\/a)
    - Rough Linked Hauberk (\aITEM -2033527258 2031394800:Rough Linked Hauberk\/a)
    - Fire Imp's Longbow (\aITEM -1752035512 -1460784294:Fire Imp\'s Longbow\/a)
    - Soft Rock Blocker (\aITEM -886009828 -891061942:Soft Rock Blocker\/a)
    - Flametouched Sash (\aITEM -1155490731 1327749389:Flametouched Sash\/a)
    - Ruined Ring (\aITEM 1146077934 350971138:Ruined Ring\/a)
    - Necklace of Stone (\aITEM 1638249506 1522120014:Necklace of Stone\/a)
    - Rubicite Vanguard Spaulders (\aITEM -686820547 -355689588:Rubicite Vanguard Spaulders\/a)
    - Rubicite Vanguard Greaves (\aITEM 1151092185 -1201710196:Rubicite Vanguard Greaves\/a)

    Nektropos Castle: The Return
    Bishop Cephas
    - Does not drop a chest

    Captain Greeves' Tunic of Vigor
    - Maid's Steel Dust Pan (\aITEM -440402096 -266305703:Maid's Steel Dust Pan\/a)

    Chalandria the Queen of the Cursed
    - Chalandria's Fang (\aITEM -2014820333 1525316256:Chalandria\'s Fang\/a)
    - Soul Sapper's Razor Fang (\aITEM -1968839403 52249783:Soul Sapper\'s Razor Fang\/a)
    - Soul Sapper's Glistening Eye (\aITEM -1139319223 2116387600:Soul Sapper\'s Glistening Eye\/a)
    - Soul Sapper's Chitin Tunic (\aITEM 1269600696 -1106430897:Soul Sapper\'s Chitin Tunic\/a)
    - Belt of Spider Legs (\aITEM 1499240223 -2017191390:Belt of Spider Legs\/a)
    - Web of Chalandria (\aITEM -1666431820 441535197:Web of Chalandria\/a)
    - Eye of Chalandria (\aITEM -2050642110 54042923:Eye of Chalandria\/a)

    The Cursed Remains of Alana Everling
    - Everling's Etched Breastplate (\aITEM -1381632124 -1299119762:Everling\'s Etched Breastplate\/a)
    - Everling's Etched Legplates (\aITEM -376353188 -1837846178:Everling\'s Etched Legplates\/a)
    - Everling's Etched Dagger (\aITEM 101003106 345730220:Everling\'s Etched Dagger\/a)

    Demitry the Ravager
    - Watch Dog's Skull (\aITEM -352556672 -521974232:Watch Dog's Skull\/a)
    - Watch Dog's Rib Cage (\aITEM 1335613997 526526181:Watch Dog's Rib Cage\/a)

    Groundskeeper Edgan
    - Maid's Sheer Stockings (\aITEM 827245810 -1447796067:Maid\'s Sheer Stockings\/a)
    - Concubine's Flowing Gown (\aITEM -744614349 533557162:Concubine\'s Flowing Gown\/a)

    Lord Everling
    - Everling's Etched Hammer (\aITEM 334334635 24365413:Everling\'s Etched Hammer\/a)
    - Everling's Carved Staff (\aITEM 519058205 928689476:Everling\'s Carved Staff\/a)
    - Everling's Etched Sword (\aITEM 1518975452 1931683717:Everling\'s Etched Sword\/a)

    The Spirit Sucker
    - Spirit Sucker's Tail (\aITEM -1404648849 1400384031:Spirit Sucker\'s Tail\/a)
    - Spirit Sucker's Toe (\aITEM -910296102 1552698939:Spirit Sucker\'s Toe\/a)
    - Spirit Sucker's Scales (\aITEM 89817254 1695965283:Spirit Sucker\'s Scales\/a)

    Ambassador D’Zint
    - Thexian ambasador’s necklace (\aITEM -316321017 1562702482:Thexian ambasador\'s necklace\/a)

    Maid Maltena
    - Maltena’s Brooch (\aITEM -308129671 1999679896:Maltena's Brooch\/a)

    Trash mobs/PH
    - Thexian Dagger of Necroism (\aITEM -405308854 -245339801:Thexian Dagger of Necroism\/a)
    - Thexian Ring of Necroism (\aITEM -111731339 -449705723:Thexian Ring of Necroism\/a)
    - Thexian Staff of Necroism (\aITEM 985903264 -1229278147:Thexian Staff of Necroism\/a)
    - Thexian Robe of Necroism (\aITEM 109668751 -1922958959:Thexian Robe of Necroism\/a)
    - Jailer's Darkened Tunic (\aITEM 493272663 1021979526:Jailer\'s Darkened Tunic\/a)
    - Jailer's Darkened Club (\aITEM -694226238 152220300:Jailer\'s Darkened Club\/a)
    - Jailer's Darkend Cap (\aITEM -28582836 -11040033:Jailer\'s Darkend Cap\/a)

    The Vestibule
    Malisient
    - Deceivers Neckguard (\aITEM 152793919 186053367: Deceiver's Neckguard\/a)
    - Blackguard Leggings (\aITEM -1789848034 -528576594:Blackguard Leggings\/a)

    The Medium of Hykor
    - Silver Fang Stiletto (\aITEM -2126529466 1131947007:Silver Fang Stiletto\/a)
    - Mithril Neckguard (\aITEM 1988245159 -340736466:Mithril Neckguard\/a)
    - Hoop of the Master (\aITEM 984069413 1081351622:Hoop of the Master\/a)
  9. Ratalthor Developer

    We are moving this thread into the General TLE section of the forums. Thanks for your assistance.
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  10. Malachy Well-Known Member


    I really wish they'd work on the city raid gear, this is fun for casual guilds and is doable at any level, but if everyone is level 50, the gear should be level 50 legendary rewards.
  11. Zenji Well-Known Member

  12. Greene Active Member

    I absolutely love these server releases, and support them monetarily (probably too much lol), but when it comes to itemization, this is a problem on every TLE release. Below pic is how I feel about it. That said I'm glad the devs are communicating AND looking into it. Tks!

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  13. Mountbatten Well-Known Member

    I'm just glad they're accepting and even soliciting regular feedback, and Mint seems to be doing a genuine job to try to get on top of it all. Can only imagine how tedious it must be to go through everything.
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  14. Malachy Well-Known Member

  15. Papablaze Member

    Just chiming in and of course most of this is correct and should receive attention but.

    Bishop Cephas has never had a loot table.
    The keys and chests do work in Nek2 it's just insanely rare.
    The loot from the chests in nek 2 is absolutely horrendous 13 stat no blue level 40 pieces.
  16. Zenji Well-Known Member


    Not it's on Test server, will be live with the next patch.
  17. Laalon2 Active Member

    Is this an assumption or do u know this for fact? Mint on the discord said the opposite.
  18. Zenji Well-Known Member


    Yes I know for a fact, I checked on Test server.
    Not sure what you saw. Mint confirmed.

    and here is the City Raid gear on Test server
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  19. Zenji Well-Known Member


    here is Mint confirming it is ready for the next patch

    https://imgur.com/0Kl1Xz3
  20. Baldur New Member

    Is that at level 50? Still seems disappointing to me, 2 group raid content dropping gear that's not as good as a lot of group gear or crafted gear. I haven't tried the city raids, so I don't know how difficult they are I guess.

    The itemization/difficulty of stuff is frustrating as a new player, I played the original 20 years ago, got to 50 and quit, have been playing EQ1 for awhile and decided to give this server a try along with a few friends. We're looking for stuff to do as a guild that's worth our time, not sure we can kill the x4 stuff yet, and things like nek2/icy dig drop really good stuff, but we can only bring 1 group, even though they have x2 raid mobs in them.