Victer@Oasis wrote: in regards to the defensive/offensive stance penalties, Stance Mastery is your friend. Also, you piercing,crushing,slashing skill's should be maxed if you want a good hit rate, otherwise, you WILL miss a at a high rate , so, if you are a zerker, and NOT using this AA line , and your melee attack skills are not maxxed for your level, then you are EPIC FAIL. I and several other zerkers that I have talked to in group's and raids use this ( Stance mastery, bottom of STA line warrior tree ) to get rid of all penalties associated with the stances. and most of us if not all, have our skill's maxed. While soloing I use Offensive stance, and when I am grouped I switch back and forth as needed. I alway's see a 95%-99% hit rate in defensive stance. so if you are seeing a high miss rate, then you are obviously NOT using stance mastery. suck it up and learn your tree.