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ARCHIVED-d1anaw · Oct 19, 2009

Cloudrat wrote:

“Proud_Silence wrote:
If I wanted to bot I would get a machine and craft in my house lol not in the crafting area of a city. Wow kids go play and stop spending so much time worrying about what the other guy is doing.”

Yeah, but apparently, then, he/she has nothing better to do but follow you in there to get the goods on ya.

ARCHIVED-Valdaglerion · Oct 19, 2009

Proud_Silence wrote:

“even if you're watching TV or doing whatever else, you still have to click repeat crafting button after each combine and look at your screen. Why on earth would you make crafting window use the entire screen, that's just stupid. sounds like an excuse why you would not answer a tell, frankly.
scared of getting cought with your macro cheat ?

I don't need lessons on how to sell my stuff either, the reason i said im not in the mood for competing against botters is that i simply can't be arsed to legimitly sit at my comp, crafting for 2hours if i could simply go out and farm some instances and easy get more cash that way. Besides just because those bots have 2k poisons for sale doesnt mean they dont watch the market. if they get undercut they will do the same.
Seriously, if you're not experiencing botters on your server, why even bother posting ? I know at least one person that admitted to me he is using macro programm to craft, because who would be so stupid to craft 200 combines of pots and poisons every day ? its not worth the time if you are out to make money, its simple economy. Unless of course you are having a programm do the work while you're asleep ( or watching TV or whatever you guys claim to do ), then of course you will want to craft something that will sell in bulks.
And that person is not the only one for sure. google for eq2 crafting macro and if you're not a complete tool you'll find what you're looking for within the first 3 hits.
So please spare me you storries about how honest you are but simply "miss" tells because of whatever silly reasons you're stating.”

Maybe because I am sitting on the couch with my laptop and 14-15" screen and the windows take up a huge portion of the screen and I am not watching chat and have the sound turned down because I am watching tv.
If you can go farm instances and make more coin then by all means you should do that if you enjoy it. If you enjoy crafting then do that. Seems you spent a lot of your play time playing bot police on someone whose game time wasnt disrupted at all by your action.
If you feel someone is doing something wrong you should report and petition them. A GM will investigate. You should also be aware that person may file reports of harassment against you if you continue to stalk and harrass them. They are under no obligation to talk to you no matter what your request.
Food for thought . . .

ARCHIVED-Rijacki · Oct 19, 2009

Calthine wrote:

“It's a legit question. People are as passionate regarding catching the cheaters as people are about being falsly accused. Let's face it, unless you catch them spamming commands in chat (used to happen, anyone else remember that?), the outward symptoms of a bot and a person who stays online and crafts on and off all day are the same. (I used craft all day long before I worked at ZAM. Having a couple thousand arrows on the broker all the time was nothing for me when I had more time.)
That's why it's so darn hard to catch botters. That and, unless something in the EULA changed, SOE can't run anything resident on our systems to catch botters (like Blizzard does).
The best you can do, as Rijacki and others have suggested, is /report them, detailing what makes you suspicious. SOE will investigate. If there's any doubt, no action will be taken, so if you're mistaken there's no harm. You should also know that you won't hear anything back on this kind of petition, you'll just get a "Thanks for bringing that to our attention, we'll look into it" note. Nor will anyone ever know who /reported them in the first place.”

/petition
Clarification on which command to use:
You need to /petition not /report. /report only sends a portion of the log file and is only useful if someone sends you a tell or puts something to say or a chat channel. /petition gives you the form to fill out and should be used for observed behaviours. Note: you can only have one /petition active at a time.

ARCHIVED-Whilhelmina · Oct 20, 2009

Just as a side note : when I open both my broker and my crafting windows, I can't see a single thing outside of them... 1024x768 is sometimes a bit of a pain...

I too am an alchemist. And I did sell 500+ cure potions sometimes. Are the ones selling above my price boters ? I don't know, but it's still possible to keep 500+ potions on the broker without macros.
mmmh, I should check that UI mod wher one can hit enter to repeat. It would stop the button mashing a 'lil bit

But yes, you can still try to report if it bothers you.

ARCHIVED-Bratface · Oct 20, 2009

Whilhelmina@Storms wrote:

“mmmh, I should check that UI mod wher one can hit enter to repeat. It would stop the button mashing a 'lil bit”

Here is a link to the UI mod I use for tradeskillling, has the enter to repeat feature as well as being able to search recipes while doing a combine, which is a real timesaver while doing writs.
http://www.eq2interface.com/downloa...dTransmute.html
It works with profit UI too.
=)

ARCHIVED-Whilhelmina · Oct 20, 2009

I was pretty sure it would be that one. Thanks a lot, I didn't know it had this repeat feature. I'll give it a look.

ARCHIVED-Calthine · Oct 20, 2009

Rijacki wrote:

“/petition
Clarification on which command to use:
You need to /petition not /report. /report only sends a portion of the log file and is only useful if someone sends you a tell or puts something to say or a chat channel. /petition gives you the form to fill out and should be used for observed behaviours. Note: you can only have one /petition active at a time.”

Whups, my bad, you are correct /report only does you any good if they said something damning in chat. And if you *do* use /report, mention it in the /petition so they can hook them together.

ARCHIVED-bks6721 · Oct 20, 2009

Proud_Silence wrote:

“even if you're watching TV or doing whatever else, you still have to click repeat crafting button after each combine and look at your screen. Why on earth would you make crafting window use the entire screen, that's just stupid. sounds like an excuse why you would not answer a tell, frankly.
scared of getting cought with your macro cheat ?

I don't need lessons on how to sell my stuff either, the reason i said im not in the mood for competing against botters is that i simply can't be arsed to legimitly sit at my comp, crafting for 2hours if i could simply go out and farm some instances and easy get more cash that way. Besides just because those bots have 2k poisons for sale doesnt mean they dont watch the market. if they get undercut they will do the same.
Seriously, if you're not experiencing botters on your server, why even bother posting ? I know at least one person that admitted to me he is using macro programm to craft, because who would be so stupid to craft 200 combines of pots and poisons every day ? its not worth the time if you are out to make money, its simple economy. Unless of course you are having a programm do the work while you're asleep ( or watching TV or whatever you guys claim to do ), then of course you will want to craft something that will sell in bulks.
And that person is not the only one for sure. google for eq2 crafting macro and if you're not a complete tool you'll find what you're looking for within the first 3 hits.
So please spare me you storries about how honest you are but simply "miss" tells because of whatever silly reasons you're stating.”

When I'm crafting I have never responded to a /tell from a stranger. I'm busy, go away. Being a Templar I get a lot of tells and I rarely respond to them reguardless of what they are asking. Does that make me a bot? Oh, 500 potions is nothing for an 80 alch to keep stocked. Just don't cry that others put in the time when you aren't willing to do the same.

ARCHIVED-kmc410h · Oct 21, 2009

When I'm TS'ing I typically will run in windowed mode, with ONLY the TS window in view... I mostly never see any of the chat context going on... and with the game sound off, all chat is easily missed...
If you are salty that you are being undercut, make more supply and undercut them or supply something they aren't... it's called sales...
If it truely is botting, do as others recommended and /petition etc...

ARCHIVED-kmc410h · Oct 21, 2009

Calthine wrote:

“It's a legit question. People are as passionate regarding catching the cheaters as people are about being falsly accused. Let's face it, unless you catch them spamming commands in chat (used to happen, anyone else remember that?), the outward symptoms of a bot and a person who stays online and crafts on and off all day are the same. (I used craft all day long before I worked at ZAM. Having a couple thousand arrows on the broker all the time was nothing for me when I had more time.)
That's why it's so darn hard to catch botters. That and, unless something in the EULA changed, SOE can't run anything resident on our systems to catch botters (like Blizzard does).
The best you can do, as Rijacki and others have suggested, is /report them, detailing what makes you suspicious. SOE will investigate. If there's any doubt, no action will be taken, so if you're mistaken there's no harm. You should also know that you won't hear anything back on this kind of petition, you'll just get a "Thanks for bringing that to our attention, we'll look into it" note. Nor will anyone ever know who /reported them in the first place.”

LOL!
Joe says to the group: 45645635261516253561

ARCHIVED-Valdaglerion · Oct 21, 2009

kmc410h wrote:

“Calthine wrote:

“It's a legit question. People are as passionate regarding catching the cheaters as people are about being falsly accused. Let's face it, unless you catch them spamming commands in chat (used to happen, anyone else remember that?), the outward symptoms of a bot and a person who stays online and crafts on and off all day are the same. (I used craft all day long before I worked at ZAM. Having a couple thousand arrows on the broker all the time was nothing for me when I had more time.)
That's why it's so darn hard to catch botters. That and, unless something in the EULA changed, SOE can't run anything resident on our systems to catch botters (like Blizzard does).
The best you can do, as Rijacki and others have suggested, is /report them, detailing what makes you suspicious. SOE will investigate. If there's any doubt, no action will be taken, so if you're mistaken there's no harm. You should also know that you won't hear anything back on this kind of petition, you'll just get a "Thanks for bringing that to our attention, we'll look into it" note. Nor will anyone ever know who /reported them in the first place.”

LOL!
Joe says to the group: 45645635261516253561”

Nah, those happen when you arent paying attention and tab into chat. It was the ones like:
/usability:recipe 987562342
that made you go . . .. . um, bot much?

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