The new vampire lore is a joke

Zabjade wrote:

Whose to say the werewolf bite won't have any effects on lore/race outcome in the future?...

Anashti Sul - reformed on Norrath in new role as Goddess of Undeath
First new race for anashti= Freebloods= New breed of vampires (possibility with soul)

I would have thought Anashti's race would be more along the lines of zombie/undead, although that would probably bring a few too many WoW comparisons.
That could easily be the explanation, though. Considering her relation to the Ewer of Sul'Dae, and it's relation to the other vampires in Norrath. And she has already tried to "save" her followers from death once before.

Wubbah@Butcherblock wrote:

To go further along with this thought. The lore provided initially was about NOTD. When all forms of undead were SEARCHING majdul for an item. Lets assume these undead were working on beheast of Anashti and looking for the Ewer.
I have a feeling the prelude events for velious is going to have the reformed Ewer stolen from Neriak and given back to Anashti who will PROPERLY use the ewer to create her first race. Freebloods
As far as I know D'morte imporperly used the ewer and gave himself vampirism and Mayong was a different form of vampire because of innoruk's involvement.

Anashti already has the Ewer back.
Part of the Anashti Sul deity questline has you break into the Dark Bargainers in Neriak to help her recover it. In the last quest of the series, you use the Fountain of Life to create a potion of blessed Fyr'Un water which you use to turn a half dozen or so of Rodcet's priests into "everliving" priests of Anashti. She's cool like that

Iskandar wrote:

Well then there is your lore on the freeblood race.
No doubt a NEW race created by anashti the NEW goddess of undeath.
And since she probably was the only one who KNEW how to properly use the ewer. She created the first true FREE willed undead race.

^ A free-willed undead race who just happens to be neutral in alignment? Anashti doesn't work that way. She'd make sure they were loyal to her like the Sul'Dae are.

Cusashorn wrote:

Facts to back up your claims please. Loyal does not mean subserviant or lacking free will.

Well if she wasn't evil, she wouldn't have forced a bunch of priests of Rodcet into her own followers. It doesn't matter if Rodcet is her enemy, what she did was evil, I don't think she would ever create a race and give them the option of defying her.

I don't need evidence to support that this race is obviously going to be neutral, because they're a race implimented via race change potions at first if I'm reading things right... and I'm still not sure if the race will ever become a true create-a-new-character race or not. I've always heard it will be a limited thing. Add on top of that there are already too many evil races compared to good, putting them as evil still makes things unbalanced even after the Ratonga switch to Neutral as well.

Anashti is an interesting diety, because even though she falls on the "evil" side, it's hard to think of her as purely evil as with other evil dieties like Innoruuk, Rallos, or Cazic Thule. Sure, she unleashed undeath to Norrath, which is pretty evil - but she did it with good intentions. Beyond her hatred of Rodcet Nife... I really don't see much from her that screams "evil".
It's an interesting theory, and I wouldn't discount it. Although, I felt the same about the Order of Rime theory that someone posed before they released more info. So maybe it won't pan out.

Cusashorn wrote:

The freeblood race is not a change your race potion.
Its a CREATE a new race purchase. In other words starting from level 1.
She also didnt create sul'dae elves. They were her followers but not because she created them.
It was because she was the goddess of life. They willingly followed her.
Your OPINIONS do not equal LORE. So saying that a vampiric race is neutral is foolish at best.
You are reading things wrong. It IS a new race.

Wubbah@Butcherblock wrote:

With the new lore written I doubt anashti has direct involvement.
The new lore eludes to velious (maybe velium) tainting the vapirism granted by mayong.
Tsserrina was the first freeblood apparantly.


Verilos,
Please read what I have enclosed. I have gone through the notes that were brought to me from Mayong’s library, and I believe that the sections I have highlighted below are the most pertinent to our experiments. Familiarize yourself with these.
… exactly how these runes might fit together. I believe that these are separate from the runes on the inside of the ring, but their significance isn’t immediately apparent. Shissar Calandar?
As an aside, I am still puzzled as to what happened back in the tower. I have pondered the failure, but the reasons to her dramatic transformation elude me. I have turned others of her race, and none have changed the way she did. There is something more to this, something that reacted violently to the gift of vampirism.
Utilizing magic as she does, I wondered at first if she might have entreated herself to a powerful dark force that might have lashed back against anything that could wrest control of its thrall from its grip, since she would become subservient to me. I believe, however, that the possessor would have revealed itself in some manner had this been the case. There was no message of any kind (no changes in voice uttering a warning, no disembodied spirit attempting to threaten me), so I don’t believe this to be the case.
I wonder if she might have been under another sort of protection spell. Perhaps she was attempting to protect herself from the vampirism using a weak warding magic. This is plausible, although I did not feel the presence of a ward, and she had drank from the goblet containing my blood without any signs of difficulty. I suspect that if there were a ward, I would have noticed it immediately.
I believe that there is something else at play here…
… to continue the search for the staff. Firiona Vie Staff? I despise their incompetence, but they are indeed necessary to complete the task I have before me.
Once again, I must make note of my findings regarding Tserrina. After pondering and researching, I believe that something was different about her blood itself. I recall there being a taste to it, something that I did not recognize. I brushed this off at first as some manner of contamination, that perhaps her dabbling in necromantic or demonic arts had tainted her blood. It seems I should have not been so quick to dismiss that fact.
If indeed her blood was impure, or mixed somehow, then whatever it was that she had infused in her blood was likely the cause of the transformation. I have a few theories as to what this could be, but the truth of the matter is that any discovery I make now is largely moot in regards to her. She is locked in the tower now, and will rot with time. She is no longer my concern, although I believe that I can apply the lessons I’ve learned to a similar experiment. I am interested in how a mixture like this might apply to another stock of blood, such as dragon’s blood. The implications of this are quite intriguing.
I will, however, make sure and look for the same sort of tells, should I choose to take up another bride as such. I do not want to waste more time and resources on another failed venture such as that again.
It’s clear to me that we must locate the notes of Tserrina Sly’Tor as well. She has the other half of the information that Mayong was missing. If we can recover that, then I believe that we can combine the two pieces of research to accomplish our goal of strengthening our bloodline. Send a thrall into the library, and recover the notes of Tserrina.
Do not fail.

What is the source of this Gungo?

EQ2 Players front page, aka a reactionary dose of substance.
So in game lore quest I would imagine...which Library? Library of Erudin? Library of Everling? Varsoon? TIme to get hunting.

It has to be a library they have access to, that they'd need to send a thrall to. my guess is they are probably going back to Mayong's library. I don't see Tserrina's notes being anyplace else, as she was heavily and only, involved with him. unless it's in a library in Neriak, since she was a Teir'dal originally.

Rainmare@Oasis wrote:

Unless this is an active forum quest, wouldn' it make more sense for Tserrina's notes to be in Tserrina's tower (aka The Tower of Frozen Shadow)?
If this is an active forum quest, then we could be looking at any of the elvin cities (Nerriak, Felwith, Kelethin), or possibly one of the other great libraries (Qeynos, Freeport, Euradin). Paineel might be even more likely than Euradin considering that Tserrina had Euradite Necromancers and other mages working for her which shold of come from Paineel.

I think that these notes are probably not an active forum quest...but I don't think Tserrina had a library in her Tower. I could be wrong on that though. if it is an active forum quest...I'd bet money that the notes would be in Neriak.

The library was like the 2nd or 3rd floor of her tower back in EQlive. It was quite extensive.

I didn't read the introduction very closely before, but looking at it again is interesting:
Verilos,
Please read what I have enclosed. I have gone through the notes that were brought to me from Mayong’s library, and I believe that the sections I have highlighted below are the most pertinent to our experiments. Familiarize yourself with these.
Not sure who Verilos is, or who was supposed to have written this letter, but it points to the Freebloods not being created by either Mayong or Tserrina. Whoever wrote this is basically saying "look at these notes about Mayong and Tserrina, and see how they're important to what we're doing" (perhaps creating a "Freeblood" race?)

Cusashorn wrote:

it was definatly the sec floor,i spent some good times in that zone,first floor was very small but the first key mob was there to open up the first mirror portal to get to the library.