I don't understand why I am giving up Juggernaut's Fury for Assassinate Mastery. The component that adds hate to all hate abilities , isn't that already happening via AA choices ? The fervor increase is neato , but the point of losing the 5 % Chance to recast any offensive combat art isn't so great. An I am to trade giving the entire group juggernaut vs giving myself 12 fervor on spells / ca's , is that class only , does that have any effect on Ascension abilities ? Why do I feel like I stand to lose more dps in an overall situation , cough*Without dragonfire*cough , than I stand to gain ? Planar mastery should work with the class rune, I highly doubt some of the more important class runes will get used , like shaman class rune, fury, etc... Is this as intended ? The flags are there for us to have to choose and at this point I'm not all that interested in this as an upgrade.. more of a transition in style of play. Less synergism and more self oriented. As one of the last few Elementalists due to bulwark in the previous expansion being necessity. It is kind of ridiculous that what I can get is an increase to a buff for another person. I'm not made of money to invest into this game. Is it possible to get an effect for elementalists that is more motivating than phoenix rising ? The effect triggers once ever 30 seconds, with currently at adapt 26.some numbers, for a 4 second opportunity to get one possible spell to double cast, maybe a grouping of them if you use instant cast nonsense. I understand that maybe I'm wrong here, I'm okay with that. My expectations were set with the previous ethereals being something you really wanted to have. These current ethereals are not really going to be worthwhile for all classes. I wonder how many other classes are going to not even bother with the new archetype runes.