Soon a year has passed since I realized that this problem wasn't being looked at, so I sent a bug report. Unfortunately nothing has happening to this black cloud to my gaming experience! In my heal spec I used for raids, I have choosen not to spend AA to get the melee versions of "Winds of Permafrost". Instead I use the spell version that I've picked Master II for, for the higher debuff. Despite that my spell debuff more than other wardens who spent AA to get the melee versions, they have no problem overwriting my spell with their combat art, and by doing so, I can't use my ability and the mob doesn't get as debuffed as it could have been. In this topic Whirl of Permafrost (CA) vs Winds of Permafrost (spell) - annoying >> the problem was discussed more than a year ago. A point is being made about the CA scaling with level and therefore is being counted as a higher level ability than the original spell version. While that sounds like a reasonable conclusion, it's not consistent with another warden ability that also can be converted to a CA, Frostbite -> Frostbite Slice. I have never experienced inability to cast the spell version even when the combat speced wardens pretend to be scouts by using the CA. If it is unreasonable that the mob get debuffed from both a spell and a melee version, the highest value should be used and the lower version should only add damage when casted on the same mob.