I'm a $15/mo subscriber and bought the latest expansion. Why do I have to pay extra for reforging?

Cyrrena · Feb 10, 2019

Tommara said: ↑

“Semantics, bleh. Absolutely a deception.

I did buy it, and don't regret it, so no sour grapes there. People who pay for an expansion advertised as including all expansions should get it included. Especially those paying a monthly fee.

Labeling it a "feature pack" and deeming it somehow different from an "expansion" is deceptive, in my book.

Although I think that stems from when EQ2 was under SOE control, not DBG, but not sure about that. Regardless, it doesn't change the morality/ethics of it. Just gives them a bit of a bye for ignorance.”

And you are correct, it was labeled a feature pak under SOE, not DBG. And quite honestly, between 2011 and the transfer of SOE to DBG in 2015, SOE could have financially afforded to make the features in that pak readily available in any of the expansions that were released subsequently and chose not to.

TechUp · Feb 10, 2019

Svenone said: ↑

“Age of Discovery is a feature pack, not an expansion, so when they tell you that you get all previous expansions when you buy the latest expansion they are not lying or decieving you. Reforging, the Beastlord class, mercenaries, dungeon maker, and tradeskill apprentices were all part of this feature pack. They were never, with the exception being mercenaries in selected expansions, a part of an expansion and are not required to play the game. Sure, people who want to tweak their characters every little bit possible call reforging a necessity, but it really isn't.

Reforging: one-time fee (buy it once per account) (fees for reforging still apply)
Mercenaries: one-time fee (buy it once per account) (fees for merc's salary still apply)
Beastlord class: one-time fee (buy it once per account) (other "fees" may apply the same as any other class)
Dungeon Maker: free (obsolete and nerfed into storage space)
Tradeskill Apprentice: one-time fee (buy it once per account) (and functionally obsolete now)”

It may have been a pack full of features, but it was never billed as a "Feature Pack" when it was on sale. Below is the description of AoD when it was for sale:

https://web.archive.org/web/20120511173322/http://www.everquest2.com/expansions

“Welcome to EverQuest II® Age of Discovery™! This is the eighth expansion of the groundbreaking EverQuest II franchise. Age of Discovery offers several never-seen-before features including new user-generated content and bringing back the classic favorite Beastlord class from the original EverQuest release. Make your mark in-game by creating your very own Dungeon, play as a character class never available in EverQuest II, and hire some much needed help for your heroic battles. This is truly an unprecedented expansion in terms of pure features and valuable in-game items.”

Now I bought the CE edition at the time and have no regrets but I find it a bit disingenuous for SOE/DB to claim later that this was never an expansion when that was how it was described to us that bought it at the time and the fact that it was the only Expansion launched that year (December 6, 2011)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EverQuest_II_expansions#Age_of_Discovery

Finora · Feb 10, 2019

TechUp said: ↑

“Now I bought the CE edition at the time and have no regrets but I find it a bit disingenuous for SOE/DB to claim later that this was never an expansion when that was how it was described to us that bought it at the time and the fact that it was the only Expansion launched that year (December 6, 2011)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EverQuest_II_expansions#Age_of_Discovery”

What it was, was a failed experiment. When it was released you should have heard the complaints about it from the playerbase. How it was not a real expansion because it had no actual content. The begging for it to be split up and offered a la carte because people didn't want to pay a full expansion price for features when they didn't even want some of the features.

The powers that be listened to the players. That "expansion" model of releasing only features was scrapped and it was all put on the marketplace a la carte just like many players asked for. I would not hold my breath until all the features make their way into future expansions.

Svenone · Feb 11, 2019

SOE/DBG originally called it an expansion, true, but they changed it to feature pack and thus they are not lying when we don't get those features as part of buying the latest expansion. If they never changed their minds, the beastlord class would never existed in the EQ2 universe, amongst other things.

Cyrrena · Feb 12, 2019

It was SOE that rebranded it a feature pack. That was well prior to DBG being involved.

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