Guardian Relic Class Cloak Dev Please Read.

Discussion in 'Fighters' started by Sevantal, Nov 22, 2015.

  1. Sevantal Member

    Please take a minute and give us a good cloak. This is unbelievably useless. One extra trigger to Sentry Watch is rubbing salt in the wound. Please look into this cloak and come up with something better. Thanks in advance.
  2. Arclite Well-Known Member

    Great. Someone beat me to it. I mean seriously guys?? Now i know the reason why it was not seen during beta. What on earth an extra trigger on sentry watch going to do? Even if you come up with the reason that it is aimed at heroic guards for group content, i will not believe it because sentry watch in its current form is more than good enough at any level of play.

    Also, I would not say no to dps blue stats but would like to see mit/block chance on it too.

    Even the level 92 PoW cloak effect would put this to shame.

    Please put some effort into it!
  3. Boli Active Member

    you can find a lot of the relic cloaks by using eq2wire: http://u.eq2wire.com/soe/item_search

    Berserker : http://u.eq2wire.com/item/index/1265719390
    Guardian: http://u.eq2wire.com/item/index/1444996965

    Dirge: http://u.eq2wire.com/item/index/4280965206
    Troubadour: http://u.eq2wire.com/item/index/2572884602
    Assasin: http://u.eq2wire.com/item/index/4132039532
    Beastlord: http://u.eq2wire.com/item/index/994048208
    Swashbuckler: http://u.eq2wire.com/item/index/3417924726

    Illusionist: http://u.eq2wire.com/item/index/1865781093
    Coercer: http://u.eq2wire.com/item/index/4010823442
    Necromancer: http://u.eq2wire.com/item/index/2424184061
    Channeler: http://u.eq2wire.com/item/index/1547216375
    Warlock: http://u.eq2wire.com/item/index/505943005

    Templar: http://u.eq2wire.com/item/index/697759650
    Defiler: http://u.eq2wire.com/item/index/3779162852
    Fury: http://u.eq2wire.com/item/index/3113335722

    that said I'm really disappointed with the relic cloaks not only is it missing doublecast (for classes who use both) but also mitigation and block - the legendary one I picked up in the questline (http://u.eq2wire.com/item/index/267349351) is a better tank cloak.

    Plus I kind of like the tradeskill timelime reward for tanks (I nice shield: http://u.eq2wire.com/item/index/603092803)
  4. Arclite Well-Known Member

    I am currently using this from a heroic zone: http://u.eq2wire.com/item/index/3548807670.

    As for the ts timeline reward, well not everyone does ts (i am one of them).

    A class specific item should really define the class and make it "useful" for that particular class -- the relic cloak for the guardian does not fulfill that criteria at all in its current state.

    Another point is that the guardian cloak is primarily focusing on dps then why isn't the passive effect also a dps boost to our class? An increase to sentinel strike damage/threat by 5% would make this cloak a better alternative dps cloak.

    Unless tier 3-4 raid content has a different class specific cloak, this needs to be re-worked on. I will not be using it at all.
  5. Dedith Well-Known Member

  6. Sevantal Member

    This post needs developer attention. I will be wearing mine in the appearance slot when/if i get one.
  7. Boli Active Member

    This expansions gear has helped a lot to balance out a lot of the massive gear disparity tanks face - the extra blue stat on most gear allows for more reforge possibilities so tanks will not struggle so much to try and cap out the essential (gear feels more like lets play with what I have instead of lets try and barely break even)

    That said we are being "charged" for the essential stats on gear - that 7% mitigation on the ring?.. yeah that's not like an ubbah DPS proc that basically tells us "wear this ring or else you die and no-one will group with you again". There is not much we can do for most of the jewelry but the tank specif relic cloaks?

    honestly I don;t care too much for the effect on them (the only good ones appear ot be DPS options so don;t expect anything cool for the fighter cloaks) but the blue stats?

    ADD mitigation and block - then they become a viable alternative - not instead of things simply add it - tank gear is always running at a disparity to other classes.... in beta you had classes like conj *complaining* they had too many blue stats and didn;t know what to do with 600 attack speed so you are not going to break the game by boosting the tank only items.

    ADD Doublecast to the crusader cloaks.not instead of flurry.. but in addition to... in fact bards would want this as well... seems silly that it is not included.
  8. Boli Active Member

  9. Smite Active Member

    I'll take an extra trigger for Sentry watch in my PUGs to help healers that get overwhelmed.

    I certainly wouldn't want more cb/pot or a clicky effect. And we have to remember that one item is not supposed to allow any player or class to carry bad groups.

    The boost to Sentry Watch seems appropriate although to only way to make it even more useful would be to double the time that all the triggers - hover - over the group.

    That could be very useful in the Heroic game!
  10. montyboy Member

    Where do these come from in game?
  11. Sevantal Member

    Um. No.
  12. Arclite Well-Known Member

    Seconded.

    If your healers are getting overwhelmed then you have serious issues elsewhere.

    Sentry watch, i repeat, has been more than good enough thus far and does not require an extra trigger especially if DBG is trying to shrug our class cloak under the pretense of group utility or whatever they were thinking about when designing that cloak.
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  13. Tharrakor Well-Known Member

    For someone playing assassin and fury mostly I am very happy with what I see. No trigger limit on fae fire is ******* awesome! Also enhanced Assassinate, wich resets quite a lot Is also awesome. Thanks devs! :)
  14. Arclite Well-Known Member

    Please praise your cloaks in your respective archetype thread in a dedicated post. Cannot control who posts here but please be mindful of others who made the post to get dev's attention.

    Thank you.
  15. Sevantal Member

    To be fair. You dev's have done a great job this xpac. Very impressed.
  16. Ajjantis Well-Known Member

    Anyone seen the brig cloak yet? Good/bad?!

    NM FOUND IT.
  17. Sevantal Member

    So the zerk gets CA damage increase(this guard doesn't want damage) no health loss resist loss mit loss defense loss and becomes grp wide on a 24 second temp.
    We get 1 trigger to sentry watch making it 4 triggers after aa.

    Suggestions:
    Give Last man standing 2 or 3 more triggers.
    Make Dragoons Reflexes no longer cancel on casting CA's
    Give Hold the Line a large boost in threat making it top our threat parse.
    Add a 20 percent DR to Reinforcements.
    Add 1 positional to Assualt
    Turn Shout into a blue.
    Turn Provoke into a green.
    Increase percentages and add 1 position per proc on Guardian Sphere.
    Add a personal 2 trigger Death Prevent to Sentry Watch.
    Add a proc to Sentinel that blue ae's a de-positional on its target with a (can only trigger one time a minute).

    Again Dev's. Great job this xpac. This cloak does need a change though.
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  18. Ajjantis Well-Known Member

    So where are they dropping?
  19. Smite Active Member

    I agree more blue somethings would make playing a Guardian more enticing but they have to be careful that a single class skill that gets boosted via equipment doesn't make everyone move that direction.

    The Inqs are still wondering where the removal of the % health limit for Prepared Defenses is on their cloak and the Devs clearly know they want it but it is obvious that the powers decided it would be too uber.

    The extra trigger on the Guardian cloak is probably going to stay although your suggestions might make nice starting discussions for future Prestige Mythical Class Relics. They're so uber I'd even put them in another category such that only 3 active players per server can even equip them and it goes on a first come first serve basis until someone is banned, switches out the gear for 24hrs, or goes F2P.
  20. Ogdinmar Active Member

    I was thinking they should have the effect that makes sentry the single buff for mage or priest a group buff and remove the class restrictions. I would wear that. also some of the previous suggestions were nice too And of course add tank blue stats!