Yes i meant Too. as is there are too many moving parts and there was a one time a VERY large thread that is not available and is now out of date. I will admit that completely re-doing Avoidance may not work, but i think it needs a work over. Also i agree that the Arm's Race of Tanking verse raid named needs to come to an end. the existing "Temp or Die" Raiding that has been building from the end game around SF down into the AoM T2 Heroic zones... IS NOT FUN. I and a lot of others have and do deal with it, but i do not think that very many tanks Like having to deal with it.