There's a reason I avoid PUGs like the plague. My Guild raids 3 nights a week, and usually we finish up early enough to do a quick run through OOB and then CoV, primarily to pick up gear for alts. Both instances, travel time included, take a bit less than an hour combined. On off nights, we'll do Unrest, OOB and CoV, which turns it into about a 2.5-3 hour affair. Once I made the mistake of joining a pug for OOB, I don't remember the specific group composition, but I remember we had 3 (count 'em, 3) plate tanks: SK, Berserker and Pally. I smelled trouble when I saw the berserker dual wielding. Suspicions heightened at the 2-hander wielding pally. I thought to myself "Cripes, are we gonna have a SK tanking for us?" (Disclaimer here: I am of the opinion that SK's are excellent at solo play, acceptable group tanks if played properly, and worthless raid tanks.) We did indeed have a SK tanking for us. My suspicion turned to near despair when I inspected the SK and saw he had worse avoidance than I do, and only 1% more mitigation (~44%). An hour and a half (and several wipes) later, we had finally cleared the zone. The terrible part is; for a lot of people 90 minutes is pretty standard, so that experience actually qualifies as a pretty successful run. But personally, I'd rather run with guildies.