Coercer Discussion

Starting up the thread for us.

Other than Ether Balance needing to be updated to 3.0 procs per minute can't really complain, we're pretty well off.

U dont play many Battlegrounds i see. Is sad that they add to new prestige dmg reduction for pet (and 3 lvls!!) when coercer cant even have a pet in any BG...go figure where SOE can insert it

SoE will never allow coercers to have a static pet, even thought we have asked them for over 3 years, Xelgad even said at one of the FFs that it might be possible to let us make pets of other players but we can all see where that road lead (still no pets of players), not like it would be that hard seeing how multiple npcs can make clones of us.

Honestly i think the damage reduction on our pets might be bugged and not even work, it doesnt show up on my pet or the spell to cast it, has anyone actually tested it to see if its working?

All they need do is allow make a essence from you or group / raid member when u are in battleground and problem fixed. Even will work if u can take essence from a enemy player, that will not make it easy to get on 5 sec cast spell. Give us buff for anything u cant have in all places, after see other class prestiges , make me enrage.

I was trying to get Ether Balance buffed up to 3.0 times per minute during beta because I still don't feel it goes off enough in raid, I'm fine if they want to keep its recast and such where its at but it really bugs me how hit and miss that spell feels.

Also player pets Xelgad, come on!

Maybe something like how dimensional storage works. Where you can have a pet ready to pull out. Or a spell to re-summon your last made pet.

Would be nice but it wouldnt solve the issue fully, unless that re-summon spell has a base recast of 30 or less i think.
The pet just dies so easly and only way to protect it is with the avatar earring to give it aoe immunity which most will not have

I really do like that re-summon idea but like i said it would need a short recast due to the pet being a melee pet most of the time.

I also support the Re-Summon idea, would help with not having to get in the AoE range of certain mobs in the middle of the fight to recast your pet. They could call it Reform Essence or something .

Sorry but I disagree with this idea. I played a coercer as my raid main for quite some time and know the class well. If you want a static pet, roll a summoner.

If you really know the class then you would understand our pet can jump your dps by 200k or more, thus it should be a static pet by now.

Love the roll a summoner comment, you understand shaman have permanent aoe immunity for their pet and have had it since KoS? Their dog doesn't really do anything more that our pet does, theirs has a ward proc, a decent hitting CA, an aoe immunity proc for targets around it, and an aoe cure to those around it, and afew of those things dont make much of a difference (aoe immunity does if it proc before an aoe landing)
So other than those few things, its simply there to add extra procs of VC or anything else in your group.

200k? I'd like to see that parse. Not to mention the pet damage reduction is useless, pet dies all the time and not worth using on raids IMO. Whatever the parse it would be nice to get them a proper AE immunity.

200k is perfectly feasible, though I don't know what dirges are throwing out in terms of VCs these days , some troubs are getting ridiculously high VCs without miracles (we're talking 350k+ per proc), a pet proccing extra VCs, PoM, Stampede, whatever the swash one is called and then the actual dps from it on a shortish fight like say Melanie Everling.

Always, always, always have a pet up if not on a named AoE fight. Rule #1 for coercer. Try and get pet classes in your group for the group wide buffs. It's a major part of our dps but 200k is just ridiculous in CoE.

Hope u know the class better that u read. If u do it slow u will notice i was calling for pet in BGs cos there is no way atm of have pet there and if i get prestige for a thing i cant use make me think that other classes get more luv that me.
Dont think they even need make new spells, just make pvp version of SS when u in BG like all other spells.

Yeah my groups dirge gives me very good VCs so i cant complain

Always have your pet up, aoe or not, its free damage until it dies. And 200k might be a slightly wildly thrown out number but its a very noticeable difference when my pet is not up, which for me on some fights is roughly 100-200k or more based on the fight.
But if there is any confusion the pet itself is not doing 200k, its adding 100k+ in proc damage for being alive and hitting the target.

A pet or an essence or rather a pet? Thx

Whoever said it would be static, make it so it is only able to be reformed in the zone. When you zone out, poof no more pet and no more ability to reform the essence.
Never had a problem with the pet dying, only had a problem of having to get close to an AoE raid mob to recast it.
Also would love it if they made the STR tree affect spell-autoattack as well. As opposed to just pure melee.

We really really need something positive to be done abour our pets. Illusionists at least can cast their own image anytime if it dies. We as everybody saying have to be close to a mob to cast possessed essence. If our pet is not up we lose dps. Please devs consider something permanent for pets or resummoning spell!

Kraeref, you can assume something's already been done.

If you read through Xelgad's "tell me what would make your life more enjoyable" thread and look at all the coercer posts, you'll see the same theme - the general issues with PE. Since the requested changes are generally not related to DPS balance, they neatly met the criteria Xelgad put forth for the thread.

GU66 goes to beta in 3 weeks and we'll see the new PE then.

I really really hope that you are right, Irving! We will see