Kemt@Venekor wrote: But an upgrade to Berserk as it stands now won't really get us anything. What good is more haste/DPS? Who is NOT well beyond the diminishing returns curve? I had never really paid attention when soloing before but I did some solo writs last night, and in every fight I was over 100 haste and DPS. In a raid/group depending on setup I'm spiking over 200 in both. That's a big part of the problem. Guardians who maybe DIDN'T have that degree of haste, will certainly have it now by tossing a few points into INT. Samies with DPS/WIS. But those new KoS points don't really benefit us. There's no meaningful place left to put them. I think your suggestion of making the Berserk add crit % or double-attack, or increased CAs . . . pure genius. Since Juggernaught adds the CA damage and crits, I'd vote for double-attack. I suppose on the flip-side . . . getting rid of some of the haste/DPS gear is an option as well.