Not A Bug The RNG and you...

Discussion in 'Resolved' started by Zsserghur, Nov 4, 2019.

  1. Argosunited Well-Known Member

    Another exquisite last night, another illegible page.
    I'm ready for that tin foil hat now.
  2. Twisty Well-Known Member


    see - *that* is a complaint worth discussing at least, unlike all the headless handwaving about toons being cursed with RNGebola. now, i'm afraid we'll quickly arrive at the brick wall of "well if not hide progression behind a low-chance RNG wall then what? more content you say? surely u jest..." but at least this thread will stop being a commentary on sad state of education
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  3. Oradim Well-Known Member

    This is something that is more of a curiosity to me than anything else so not sure what value there is in this, but...

    I spent quite a bit of time executing "/random 1 100" for a total of 1,000 executions with logging enabled. If I may quote John Lennon here, "I've got blisters on my fingers!"

    So, I ended up with a log file that had 1,000 executions of the inclusive range of 1 to 100 that look like this:

    Random: Oradim rolls from 1 to 100 on the magic dice...and scores a 24!

    I then hacked together a (very) quick and dirty parser to create a list of values and number of occurrences.

    I'm not sure how many times we should expect to see each value — 10? Something else entirely?

    I have no idea how the RNG in game is seeded, works, what the loot tables look like etc. this was just an interesting exercise to see what values were produced.

    I don't know if anyone can make anything of it, but here are the numbers (i.e., the 1 to 100 bit) followed by the number of occurences of each in the log file. They are in a comma separated format if you want to copy them and paste them into Excel or some other tool.

    For example, the number 1 was rolled 17 times, the number 2 was rolled 6 times the number 100 was rolled 5 times and so on. The lowest number of occurrences is 4 (25 and 92) and the highest is 18 (38 and 66).

    Anyway, I'm not a statistician so hopefully someone who knows more about that can comment.

    Here are the values:

    Code:
    1,17
    2,6
    3,5
    4,15
    5,7
    6,14
    7,10
    8,11
    9,12
    10,10
    11,9
    12,5
    13,8
    14,5
    15,9
    16,8
    17,9
    18,9
    19,5
    20,17
    21,8
    22,6
    23,9
    24,10
    25,4
    26,11
    27,8
    28,9
    29,12
    30,10
    31,9
    32,9
    33,7
    34,12
    35,8
    36,6
    37,16
    38,18
    39,7
    40,10
    41,7
    42,14
    43,8
    44,5
    45,8
    46,17
    47,10
    48,10
    49,12
    50,11
    51,7
    52,6
    53,8
    54,7
    55,8
    56,6
    57,12
    58,9
    59,11
    60,9
    61,9
    62,11
    63,12
    64,8
    65,13
    66,18
    67,11
    68,11
    69,13
    70,8
    71,8
    72,11
    73,12
    74,10
    75,14
    76,13
    77,11
    78,14
    79,10
    80,8
    81,15
    82,5
    83,9
    84,10
    85,16
    86,11
    87,11
    88,15
    89,14
    90,7
    91,9
    92,4
    93,12
    94,16
    95,6
    96,11
    97,12
    98,8
    99,14
    100,5
    
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  4. Francoise Member

    Might I point out that calling people uneducated does nothing to bolster the argument of one who considers himself superior.
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  5. Oradim Well-Known Member

    Maybe purely “Gee Whiz!” type of information:

    Mean: 10
    Median: 10
    Mode: 8

    Here's a bar chart of the data where the X axis is the random value generated and the Y axis is the frequency of occurrence for that value (out of the 1,000 executions):

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  6. Jaeded Well-Known Member

    I will put on my tin foil hat and sit in the corner but please don't try to tell me it isn't possible to have a some type of code attached to your character or account ID that can alter your odds on RNG. For the record I'm not saying that this is happening, just that it is 'possible'.
    I'll take my tin foil hat and go sit in the corner now, lol ;)
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  7. Ratalthor Developer

    Since this isn't a bug, I'm going to close this thread. Please post suggestions or game improvements in a different forum other than Bug Report.
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