Lore and Legends..a weekly feature?

It depends on your definition of the word unemployed.

Uncle Sam defines it as someone on unemployment benefits.

I define it as someone who wants to work but cannot find a job.

The opening paragraph of the article you linked is interesting.

"In 2013, 9.6 percent of families included an unemployed person, down from 10.5 percent in 2012, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Of the nation's 80.4 million families, 80.0 percent had at least one employed member in 2013."

So in 2013, both were true:
1) 9.6% of families included an unemployed person. And
2) 80% of families had at least one unemployed member.

Please correct me if I am wrong, but I am left with the assumption that 9.6% was the rate of unemployment (for the criteria of families as mentioned previously) at the time the survey was conducted. And the 80% pertained to someone who was unemployed in a family at ANY point in 2013, meaning most of them (approx 90% of that 80%) had found work by the time the survey was conducted?

The job thing came up in a discussion between myself and Azian, where he made an example of 3 people getting laid off, and all 3 failing to find new work 15 months later. Based on my interpretation of the figures in the document you provided, the example Azian provided would very much be an anomaly.

On a side note, Uncle Sam will not include illegal immigrants on unemployment statistics. That would be a tricky one to track (and potentially quite high).

I have provided evidence in the form of the link to patch notes, where you can read up on every weekly update we've had since they started with that schedule. You're the one that's failed to provide evidence that you are correct. All you have is your conjecture.

I'm not saying anyone needs to know the ins and outs of game design. There's a basic understanding of what goes on when you bother to look at what happens over a period of time. Using simple logic, one can discern that time between the release of dungeon content must mean it takes some time to create. Comparing the size and scope of that zone to a place like Antonica (with all it's quests and collections and other items), it's not hard to determine that it's a tall order. It's like walking into a busy restaurant with several big parties and expecting immediate attention just for you. There's no knowledge check, just a common sense and mood check.

I believe the comment about hanging the EQ2 Devs referred to more than just the post in this thread. It covers a wide variety of complaints posted in these forums. It's all some people know how to do and they can get away with it more here than out in the real world. If you started ranting and raving like some of the people here do, you'd be escorted off the premises and possibly arrested. Again, it's not a matter of knowledge. It's a matter of common sense and mood.

By the way, fussing over unemployment is a good way to get this thread locked or content snipped. Again, not a knowledge check.

Please do not change the quote. The correct quote is:

That means 20% of families had NO employed member. A household with no employed individuals is, by my defintion, an unemployed household.

But the federal definition of "unemployed" is someone not on unemployment benefits. This excludes anyone who does not qualify for unemployment benefits or for whom these benefits have run out. This is where the disparity in statistics comes from and it's important to understand the difference.

People play this game for variety of reasons. Some of these weekly updates will not appeal to everyone. Some will be larger then others and take longer to develop, leaving some smaller features in between. Some months we may see more substantial updates each week. Keep in mind that while we are getting these smaller updates and or Live events as a weekly feature there is work going on that we are not aware of. June provided a fair share of new content that appealed to a broad player base with diverse interests. This game has more transparency now then it ever had, EQ2 Insider, Producers Letter. I for one am a satisfied paying customer.

https://forums.station.sony.com/eq2...ucers-letter-july-august-news-updates.549469/

“You can please some of the people some of the time all of the people some of the time some of the people all of the time but you can never please all of the people all of the time.”
― Abraham Lincoln

This is the federal definition : http://www.bls.gov/cps/lfcharacteristics.htm#unemp

"Persons are classified as unemployed if they do not have a job, have actively looked for work in the prior 4 weeks, and are currently available for work. Persons who were not working and were waiting to be recalled to a job from which they had been temporarily laid off are also included as unemployed. Receiving benefits from the Unemployment Insurance (UI) program has no bearing on whether a person is classified as unemployed."

Reading over the official documentation on the BLS website, I am yet to see anything in writing to support your position.

In addition, I am quoting the document you referenced - "In 2013, 9.6 percent of families included an unemployed person, down from 10.5 percent in 2012". They are not my words, it is the opening sentence of the document you referenced. This means 90.4% of families had no unemployed members in 2013. Now, you have a problem. If 90.4% of families have an employed member in 2013, how can 80.0 percent of families have had at least one employed member in 2013? Just stop and think about the numbers for a moment.

Just because a patch has not been released with a typo fix as a weekly feature, does not mean a typo fix does not match the description of a weekly feature, as per Smokejumpers post. So no, you linking the patch notes proves nothing against my position.

My evidence, is the declaration of what a weekly feature can consist of. You even posted a portion of it on this thread.
https://forums.station.sony.com/eq2...irector-of-development-dave-georgeson.545526/

Once again, I did not say SOE have released typo fixes as weekly features. I have said that if they did, it would technically meet the criteria laid out by Smokejumper to be a weekly feature. There is a distinct difference between the two, and I can only suggest you learn it.

Whatever it takes. Woof.

kono

Are companies required to notify the government of each resume they receive? If not, I don't see how the government would know if someone has been actively looking for work or not. Not unless they are also receiving unemployment benefits, that is.

http://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_htgm.htm#where

"a monthly survey called the Current Population Survey (CPS) to measure the extent of unemployment in the country. The CPS has been conducted in the United States every month since 1940"

Easier to give the link to that specific section, than paste the whole process. They do a pretty good job of explaining it.

As fun of a segue the discussion of employment statistics has been, I will try to get this back on track... I disagree with the OP. It is my belief that an improvement to the mastery strike line of skills is a feature refinement that justifies classification as a weekly feature.

While I agree with you Avirodar that a typo fix would qualify, I disagree that Milliebii's post (the second one in the thread) is not worth calling hyperbolic and unconstructive. He called the weekly feature a farce, which in this context means laughable and pathetic, and said that SJ's announcement set expectations that were silly. Quite simply, the weekly feature is a feature that is released each week, at no point does anyone claim that they will be awe inspiring world altering changes so his calling it a farce is inflammatory and inaccurate, further the dismissive description of the image as pin the tail on the donkey of things that were going to be released anyway is also completely unhelpful as logically everything put in game was intended to be put in the game anyway. If a weekly feature is something that was not meant to be put in eventually, then I somehow doubt it would find it's way to the game. An expectation cannot be set by someone else we can only set our own, and the vague (and I paraphrase here) "He did not say it, but his words obviously meant" explanation is the intellectually dishonest way of saying "I assumed" which is(again to paraphrase), as the old chestnut says, the way to look foolish.

I of course laugh at the ludicrous suggestion that they drop the weekly and just call it a feature...in other words the contention is not with the items being features, rather that they are being released each week....which they demonstrably are. I personally wonder what people wish to call a small feature that is not important enough to be part of a big update or expansion that is released each week.

Edit apologies to you Milliebii misread that part of that post, but not so small that I do not want you to know what I am apologizing for saying.

You misrepresent my point. I did not call this "Weekly Feature" a farce, I called the whole "Weekly Feature" program a farce, and yes I meant that it is laughable and pathetic.

As to what I would call this particular item on the patch notes, I would simply list it on the patch notes. If they did that my reaction would have been "heh look a new L&L quest that's nice".

Going to go ahead and lock this as it has become non-constructive.