Yea that one doesn't hold up that well. Sorry. https://discord.com/channels/228604818057330688/894662273342242817/1002588977339052042
Beautiful work, I love everything about the hair and face changes but do not like the heavy black around the female eyes at all. I don't use the soga models, I think the eyes on characters other then they need more color choices are one of the better eq2 facial features.
Either would be good, but Luclin if there were a choice. *edit* at a minimum, the woads from eq1 are far better than the eq2 ones. Can you swap those out? Also the eq2 female heads are massive. They all need lipo.
I dont use the HIGH ELF SOGA models. they look too much like a Human/Barbarian. I like the strands of hair in my Half Elfs face and my Dark Elfs face. (SOGA models} I dont remember what all else I have. . . My Freeblood and Arekyns do NOT have SOGA . I too am getting tired of the excuses when the topic of hair comes up. The old company got bought out to PROGRESS not to DIE-gress. . . . . or am I wrong???
Some SOGA models are absolutely essential. Erudites, for example - I have to use SOGA to be able to simply distinguish the gender of these Roswell refugees, even though I refuse to play a species that looks like something straight out of The Ringworld Engineers (which is ironic, as my EQ1 main was an erudite, beard and all, meaning it's straight-up impossible to clone him now). Ogres? Absolutely. I prefer the green-skinned oni look, I wouldn't have bothered playing one otherwise, they just weren't interesting enough to me to begin with. If the SOGA models went away, so would he. One the flip side, SOGA elves are never going to be a thing for me in the options panel. I'll leave off a (IMO) witty remark as to why, as I don't want to offend anyone with an observation that would likely not be well-received in some quarters. Male high elves in SOGA are sort of tolerable to my eyes, but I realize that's hardly a glowing recommendation. I don't feel strongly enough about the other species to worry about it, regardless if I'll play one or not. But I seem to remember that the game had some beeee-yootiful models that were displayed prior to the game's release, but were most decidedly not the character models we got. Next to the (ahem) "necessary" <wheeze> removal of the Blissful Awareness chest piece, which the masses from across Norrath descended on Qeynos to obtain but then had simply yanked away and replaced with a potato sack, the alpha-build character model issue has always been a burr in my saddle. I'm barely computer-literate enough to use Microsoft Office, so I'm doubtless missing some nuance in the discussion, but I've always wondered why (at the time) SOE dangled those images like one would dangle a Snickers bar over a sugar addict in a full body cast.
Hm, is that so? Does someone have screenshots of the chars that you mention? Would love to see them for curiosity's sake, not sure if I ever saw them anywhere, it's been so long. Maybe Toby has some unseen and behind the scenes footage for us somewhere? Would be awesome to see more of the new stuff that he was working on for EQ1 tbh. Love comparing things in retrospect.
Interesting idea tbh: https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq...w-character-models.603362/page-5#post-6683851
Times were, there were pictures all over the place, the universe seems to have decided I'm not worthy to ever gaze on them again. There is this, however:
Ok, that was such an interesting video. Thanks for sharing! Do you have more? Love that old stuff, really takes you back a couple of years. For one, that video just goes to show how brutally more advanced eq2 was versus the competition back then. There really was no comparison - eq2 was the nextgen king of the hill. That said, those models did look great and fit more into the original lore and artwork of the original franchise. What happend? Just compare what we see in the video to this: Which kinda reminds me of: The sad part about this is that we have some beautiful looking npc models that were upgraded with the expacs and game updates, but a vast majority of our chars + older npcs are stuck in the millenium era. And to make things worse, we have japanese / anime characters too now, which makes it a huge mishmash from an artistic / lore point of view. Man, we really have to clean up a few things and make this baby great again. Same goes to a few other effects that went missing all of a sudden: https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq...ter-and-shadows-on-64b-can-it-be-done.604142/
Looks more mature doesn't it? The art is just different. Sure, that alpha model could use better textures and hair etc. too, but the overall look and feel was right and felt more like Everquest than anything else IMO. Some of our npcs do look a bit like that though, it's only us mere mortals who look different.
From what little I recall of playing EQ1 (I was there for almost a whole month! ) even the models we have now in EQ2 are VASTLY superior. Of course, that was way back in like 2005-6, when to me, the EQ1 stuff looked not too far removed from Super Mario up there. And yes, I agree with the SOGA users; that alternate style definitely has a place, mostly for Ogres (I, too, will not create one without SOGA) and male Barbarians; female Barbarians will often depend on what I want with a look from the individual. Same with just about every other race that has a SOGA option; it will often depend on what I'm looking for specifically, though I don't like the "Captain Harlock" (should that be "Hair-lock"? ;->) anime look of half your vision occluded by hair; in RL, that would be bugging the hell out of me, and I'd either lop all those bangs off so I could see, or pin it back somehow. X-P That being said, I loved the tweaks Sturm did to the toons, and yeah, we definitely need more accessories, and not just with our Half-elves and Gnomes. ;-> If only NCSoft had actually offered its character creator for City of Heroes across the board as a third-party UI, tweaked to fit fantasy games, modern games, sci-fi games, etc. as well as its own superhero games, they might not have gone bankrupt. ;-> Uwk
Back when there was the DDoS or hack or whatever it was that was a major-ish crisis way back when, I was PMing with a dev who was actually wishing SOE would stay down for at least another month; he figured that would give them enough time to revamp everything, get the engine up where it should have been, put more on the GPUs vs. the CPU, etc. But the players were champing at the bit and the Powers were panicking about quarterly profits ("Ahhhh! We'll get Greenspanned if we don't get everything up NOW!!! Ahhh! "), so they got back ASAP and left everything else at status quo. :-/ I think that yeah, they might've lost some players due to impatience, but I think that if they'd been allowed to do everything they'd wanted to do, they would've retained more of the rest, as well as maybe luring the quitters back in with rumors of how much cooler the game now was. /shrug Uwk
I was going through my old photo bucket account and was reminiscing about the old horse mounts being so chunky, I really miss those models. I do appreciate the svelte ponies now but wish to have some chunky warhorse and lots of feather ( leg hair and manes) again
