Fixed Internally Auto Attack Breaks Stealth

Discussion in 'Resolved' started by Kittik, Feb 11, 2020.

  1. Uwkete-of-Crushbone Well-Known Member

    Is THAT what's screwed up all the Scouts? I don't recall it being broken before in any way... :-/

    Uwk
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  2. Semperfifofum Well-Known Member

    I think what's happening is...

    1. target creature
    2. click a skill
    3. auto-attack activates and probably fires an arrow/bolt
    4. creature is low level so it is one shotted
    5. skill activates... but no valid target, error message

    If that's happening, then you can eliminate the error by using the key ` to activate Auto attack instead. However, autoattack isn't smart enough to take distance into account, it defaults to melee so you might get "too far away" or something. Unless you fiddle with your autoattack modes.
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  3. Uwkete-of-Crushbone Well-Known Member

    Hmm; I'd always just ascribed it to the relatively ginormous weapon delay for melee weapons, myself, though I could easily be wrong...similar to your theory, where:

    1. target creature
    2. click a skill
    3. auto-attack activates on Second One (1.0) as the move begins
    4. Stealth/flanking position is broken as a result
    5. melee blow would've hit on Second Six, finally (6.0), at the end, but you're no longer stealthed, on the flank/back of the target, or anything else you need to be :-/

    Uwk
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  4. Bunji Developer

    We submitted more fixes related to this (on Test and Live now). If you still see this issue, please respond with details on how you reproduce the issue and we can have QA investigate.

    Asking QA to try the steps listed above.
  5. Semperfifofum Well-Known Member

    (Thanks Bunji!)

    Here's another scenario... middle of a battle, Swashy (behind) presses boot dagger (now stealthed), activates Shanghai... but is unlucky and AA goes off just before. Shanghai errors out, since the AA broke stealth.

    I suppose I could watch my AA timer and activate boot dagger just after it goes off, then Shanghai. But if the purpose was to obviate the need to watch the AA timer, then hmm...

    I'll make a point of playing my swashy in a group to test it. I doubt if this hurts flanking/behind position, but I mentioned it because that's the likely scenario for Swashy in a group.
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  6. Thordalf Developer

    QA just tried to replicate the Swashbuckler scenario, but wasn't seeing auto-attack break stealth. Have you tried this since the last patch on Tuesday?
  7. Wulfgyr I've got friends in EQ2Wire places

    Hi Thordalf,
    I just tried on Test - Stealthed, using Hidden Shot II to initiate combat. From what I can see in my log (pasted below), Auto-attack (ranged) fired, Rune of Blasting Proc'd, and then Archer's Fury triggered Quick Shot (which proc'd Makeshift Arrow), all BEFORE Hidden Shot had a chance to connect:

    ***** Begin Log Paste *****
    (1585248103)[Thu Mar 26 11:41:43 2020] You say, "Begin Stealth Test for Thordalf."
    (1585248114)[Thu Mar 26 11:41:54 2020] You start fighting.
    (1585248114)[Thu Mar 26 11:41:54 2020] YOU hit a Sullon centurion for a critical of 365 piercing damage.
    (1585248114)[Thu Mar 26 11:41:54 2020] YOUR Greater Rune of Blasting hits a Sullon centurion for 43 magic damage.
    (1585248114)[Thu Mar 26 11:41:54 2020] YOUR Quick Shot hits a Sullon centurion for 149 piercing damage.
    (1585248114)[Thu Mar 26 11:41:54 2020] YOUR Makeshift Arrow hits a Sullon centurion for 407 piercing damage.
    (1585248114)[Thu Mar 26 11:41:54 2020] \aNPC 81473 a Sullon centurion:a Sullon centurion\/a says in Orcish, "You should have left when you had a chance."
    (1585248115)[Thu Mar 26 11:41:55 2020] a Sullon centurion hits YOU for 153 slashing damage.
    (1585248116)[Thu Mar 26 11:41:56 2020] I need to be stealthed! <- Should be Hidden Shot II
    (1585248117)[Thu Mar 26 11:41:57 2020] a Sullon centurion tries to slash YOU, but YOU parry.
    (1585248119)[Thu Mar 26 11:41:59 2020] a Sullon centurion hits YOU for 171 slashing damage.
    (1585248120)[Thu Mar 26 11:42:00 2020] a Sullon centurion tries to slash YOU, but misses.
    ***** End Log Paste (truncated for brevity) *****

    Hope that helps!
  8. Irrixess New Member

    Just tested auto attack with stealth and positional on Public Test server

    Steps to reproduce:
    • Create a new Ranger character
    • Get to level 2. Grants Emberstrike (stealth) and Rear Shot (positional behind)
    • Select non-hostile targets
    Positional "Rear Shot" trial
    • Select target
    • Position character directly behind target
    • Activate only Rear Shot ability
    LOG:
    (1585256439)[Thu Mar 26 17:00:39 2020] You start fighting.
    (1585256439)[Thu Mar 26 17:00:39 2020] YOU hit an elk calf for 9 piercing damage.
    (1585256440)[Thu Mar 26 17:00:40 2020] an elk calf tries to crush YOU, but misses.
    (1585256441)[Thu Mar 26 17:00:41 2020] You must be behind or flanking your target.
    (1585256443)[Thu Mar 26 17:00:43 2020] an elk calf hits YOU for 1 crushing damage.
    (1585256444)[Thu Mar 26 17:00:44 2020] YOU hit an elk calf for 9 piercing damage.
    (1585256445)[Thu Mar 26 17:00:45 2020] an elk calf hits YOU for 1 crushing damage.
    (1585256446)[Thu Mar 26 17:00:46 2020] YOUR Lightning Strike hits an elk calf for 13 heat damage.
    (1585256446)[Thu Mar 26 17:00:46 2020] an elk calf was interrupted!
    (1585256446)[Thu Mar 26 17:00:46 2020] You stop fighting.
    (1585256446)[Thu Mar 26 17:00:46 2020] You have killed an elk calf.

    Stealth "Emberstrike" trial
    • Enter Stealth
    • Select target
    • Position character within melee range
    • Activate only Emberstrike ability
    LOG:
    (1585256473)[Thu Mar 26 17:01:13 2020] You start fighting.
    (1585256473)[Thu Mar 26 17:01:13 2020] You get better at Slashing (6/10).
    (1585256473)[Thu Mar 26 17:01:13 2020] YOU try to slash an elk calf, but miss.
    (1585256473)[Thu Mar 26 17:01:13 2020] You get better at Slashing (7/10).
    (1585256473)[Thu Mar 26 17:01:13 2020] YOU hit an elk calf for 4 slashing damage.
    (1585256473)[Thu Mar 26 17:01:13 2020] an elk calf hits YOU for 1 crushing damage.
    (1585256474)[Thu Mar 26 17:01:14 2020] You must be sneaking to use this ability.
    (1585256476)[Thu Mar 26 17:01:16 2020] an elk calf hits YOU for 1 crushing damage.
    (1585256478)[Thu Mar 26 17:01:18 2020] an elk calf hits YOU for 1 crushing damage.
    (1585256478)[Thu Mar 26 17:01:18 2020] You get better at Slashing (8/10).
    (1585256478)[Thu Mar 26 17:01:18 2020] YOU hit an elk calf for 5 slashing damage.
    (1585256478)[Thu Mar 26 17:01:18 2020] You get better at Slashing (9/10).
    (1585256478)[Thu Mar 26 17:01:18 2020] YOU hit an elk calf for 4 slashing damage.
    (1585256479)[Thu Mar 26 17:01:19 2020] You get better at Slashing (10/10).
    (1585256479)[Thu Mar 26 17:01:19 2020] YOUR Lightning Strike hits an elk calf for 13 heat damage.
    (1585256479)[Thu Mar 26 17:01:19 2020] You stop fighting.
    (1585256479)[Thu Mar 26 17:01:19 2020] You have killed an elk calf.

    Any ability seems to engage combat, thought the ability does not actually produce its desired effect until the completion of the "cast" time, hence stealth and positional abilities don't complete. This is the problem when the player is SOLO because the target will just rotate towards you, or reveal your stealth without something else capturing it's threat attention. If you are in a group, then this probably doesn't make a difference.

    Oh and P.S. Same results on LIVE server of course
  9. Semperfifofum Well-Known Member

    Not yet, thank you though. Glad to hear it works.
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  10. DreadRoberts Active Member

    Just tried it again on a 'sin on live (AB). Stealth, set up behind non-aggro mob, activate Ambush, and AA automatically kicks on, giving me the error message re: Ambush that I must be in stealth to use that skill.
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  11. dreamweaver Well-Known Member

    Alright, the bug with the new information is in progress.
  12. DreadRoberts Active Member

    Very greatly appreciated! :)
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  13. Uwkete-of-Crushbone Well-Known Member

    I, too, have log info; looks a lot like Irrixess's:

    With a level 36 Human Assassin, STR/AGI/INT AA specced:

    (1586195131)[Mon Apr 6 10:45:31 2020] You start fighting.
    (1586195131)[Mon Apr 6 10:45:31 2020] YOU hit a locked chest for 139 slashing damage. [this is in Gnoggin's Cove]
    (1586195131)[Mon Apr 6 10:45:31 2020] YOUR Poison hits a locked chest for 2 poison damage.
    (1586195131)[Mon Apr 6 10:45:31 2020] YOUR Poison hits a locked chest for 10 poison damage.
    (1586195131)[Mon Apr 6 10:45:31 2020] YOU multi attack a locked chest for 290 slashing damage.
    (1586195132)[Mon Apr 6 10:45:32 2020] a locked chest hits YOU for 109 crushing damage.
    (1586195132)[Mon Apr 6 10:45:32 2020] You must be in stealth.[emphasis mine]
    (1586195133)[Mon Apr 6 10:45:33 2020] You get better at Slashing (178/180).

    Sigh...my best move with that toon, Mortal Blade; I led with it, it was the first move that I knew of, does 4 digits' worth of damage, when I'm in Stealth. According to this, I'll not be in Stealth any more again, ever. :(

    Let us know when it's fixed! :D

    Uwk
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  14. DreadRoberts Active Member

    Turning off Auto-Attack in Character options has mostly helped me with this. I just have to remember to have Melee and Ranged regular attacks hotkeyed and ready to hit right away; sometimes I forget and get all mad at why I'm being beat up but doing nothing. :rolleyes:
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  15. Ergos New Member

    I am kind of confused. This bug has been on TLE for 5 months. It's been reported constantly and no one has fixed it. The last TLE forum to list this issue was on Feb 3'rd in the TLE forums
    Dreamweaver piped in on it and said he would report it. I dunno if it's not allowed to cross link so I wont but it is there in the TLE forums,

    The first such thread reporting the issue on TLE was December 21, 2019

    Scouts on our server have to macro most every CA on their hotbars to turn their autos on and off
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  16. Uwkete-of-Crushbone Well-Known Member

    In Character Options? No macros needed (though, why should that be different for the TLE servers...)? :D

    They still should fix what they broke, though. >:-/

    But thanks for the advice! :)

    Uwk
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  17. Kittik Well-Known Member

    This is crazy, something was done because now it's super random. I went through 3 whole fights being able to use my stealth abilities and then it error-ed out again and did it twice on a single mob.
  18. DreadRoberts Active Member

    I don't know if that's an option on TLE servers or not. But if it is, it may help keep the madness at bay, if only for a little bit and a little while. ;)
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  19. Kittik Well-Known Member

    Made a couple video's. (I'm not good at making video's) but it shows that this ability is still wonky

    1st video = assassinate, all requirements met. Errors out

    2nd video = assassinate, all requirements met, nothing changed. Works




  20. Kittik Well-Known Member

    And for good measure, here's a different ability so you don't just think it's assassinate.