Well a lot of people avoided VoA because it was pretty hard, especially after the relative easiness of HoT. Same goes for TDS. I chop them up in COTH but TDS is just plain tough. I can only speak for myself regarding my box crew. Boxing lets me play at my pace. When you have a group of 6 you play at the pace of six people and the slow players suffer. I've slowed a lot in recent years. Can't deathmatch on CoD at all and I get owned on StarCraft 2. Researchers have used SC2 players for all kinds of studies on cognition and found something interesting. They said cognitive reflexes and reactions start to decline after age 24. That's why SC2 professional players are so young and there is now a doping scandal with SC2 players taking Adderall to compete. I'm way past 24 and can only react so fast. I've been having a nightmare time trying out as an enchanter in a raiding guild. Boxing lets me play at my pace and my speed. I can only play for so long before I start to get headaches and dizziness. If I group with younger players who play real fast it becomes a nightmare. So I box to play at my own speed. If there was an offline game like this, I'd never log on. I had hoped Might and Magic X would be it but man did they do a crap job on it. The fact is soon I won't be able to keep up with the game. Guess I'll have to take up Candy Crush Saga or something.