People play Everquest for a variety of reasons. Sometimes people play for the collection side of the game (it is a collection game first and foremost.) another example is Tradeskillers, some like TS best, others are only there to TS, its rare, but i have met sets of players that only kill things to further their tradeskill endeavor My motivation is efficiency. I'm from the performance camp. I like to Talk start, How to find the most efficient approach to things. I like to understand all of it. lets take a cleric for example. How are new raids /items interacting with the cleric . Whats the best way to perform on a cleric, and what are the caveats. How do you play a cleric in group game? How do you play a cleric in raid @60s,120s,250,300,400,500,......2000s ; how does the cleric interact with other players during this time; how does the cleric interact with other clerics? I'm not looking for a write up on the cleric, like a full class strat. I'm a big believer in, you should create you're own strat when you start a class; and that the real challenge/skill/strategy of eq, comes from that. Ie: instead of finding a strat for a class, find a strat on how to come to a conclusion on any class on what might be the best course of action. People don't create their own strats, so i see the skepticism in sharing information you have, because most people rely on that too make improvements, there is really no way of getting around that. I'm not so coveted with information. Someone beats me, same gear, same adps, I'm giving them props, even if they did get some info from me. I also get motivation to work on my toons from others performing well. I use other peoples parses as benchmarks. If my toon needs some work, and i see parses where hes geting pwnt, ill wanna catch him up. That brings me to my next issue with parsing, so AA can make a difference but its also real possible for a person to do. Gear, fight length,adps, might be out of you're hands. Hard to get raid focus on all you're alts, fight length you are basicly stuck with w/e you're guild does. and ADPS is such a big factor, being in the same group is really the only way to throw down! I feel this was a good preface to what I'm about to say, even tho it is scatter brained, it shows where I'm coming from. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So in trying to find people to talk strat, and link parses people get mad at me. I am anti Bullying and MmmQue ing, i def have put my hat in the ring for trying to stop those things; so that may be a factor. One of the biggest factors, i feel when people have tryed to bully me in the past, and it didn't work out for the, they got their friends involved to try and bad mouth me? i really am not sure partly why im asking. I know eq has had a fair amt of players with low mental health, Do they just surface when people want to talk strat and compete ? Another thing it could be is that text is bold and faceless. People can sorta spin to to be something its not, either in their own minds or in someone elses. I haven't found one player that like to talk strat or link parses, and yet , look at all the people that take off work to try and beat an expan first (competing) . I got locked out of my mains account the other day for a week so i was forced to raid on an alt. (who used to be my main since i was a kid) I parsed /GU Combined: Icebound Avatar of War in 1206s, 15,150.4m @12562536 | #1 Ixvl + pets 733.8m@(613.6k in 1196s) on AOW. And its good, but im positive there is better out there. He had tbl gear, not 1 piece of TOV. He didn't have the proc augs from the evolving gear, because he didn't evolve any gear. He didn't have the proc aug from TBL challenger, because he never did it. Only had rank 2 spells because hes my alt. So when i linked it i figured it was gonna get my benchmark parse. a parsed from someone else that blows it out of the water, and gives me motivation to do all those things ive yet to do, I basically got called names, and the guy said he did have a better parse for chanter but wouldn't link it. I've been one of the moral people in eq. Not lieing, helping others, standing up to bullys, standing up to users, When i try and talk about anything /\ /\ /\ like i talked about up there, any of it. People get MAD ! i don't understand why people are so bent out of shape.