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Why is Selos exp so bad?

Discussion in 'Time Locked Progression Servers' started by Master Kahleem, Apr 1, 2019.

  1. Master Kahleem Augur

    For a server that was advertised to be a high-exp rate server Selos has been remarkably slow. Then, it was realized that AA exp wasn't being affected properly by either the event exp bonus OR the exp bonus rates of Selos (why is the exp modifier separate?).

    So not only is normal exp rates much slower than originally advertised (almost like it was untested), but AA exp wasn't even touched??

    Also, as someone who works in software development I'm perplexed at how slow DBG's decisions are. It's VERY clear the to customers (us) that what we're getting is not as advertised, and it's not hard to test internally what the exp values "should" be.

    Is DBG trying to sell more exp potions? I ask because slower rates, or "not fast", does not equate to more potions sales...it means LESS potions sales. You might be perplexed by that thought, but keep in mind that potions are percentage based so if lower amounts of exp are buffed by 25/50% it's still a lower amount of experience. I've never felt that the percentages, and the prices, of exp potions have ever been worthwhile. I mean dang, FOURTY DOLLARS for a 4hour +50% group buff that we don't know if it's multiplicative or additive, and feels overall very diminished in return, is just nuts to me. I digress....

    Is DBG's team still running in "Waterfall" development? Is that why it takes so dang long to make any meaningful decisions?

    IS DBG's team being hamstrung by business who are going "MAKE EVERYTHING SLOW FOR RETENTION RATES SO WE MAKE MORE POTION SALES"???

    The server is already going at breakneck unlock speeds, and even the hardcore of hardcore players are feeling left behind. You cannot wait until the next major patch to fix this issue.

    BOTH Normal exp rates AND AA exp rates need to be addressed as even with the +50% exp bonus weekend Selos felt SLOW. The universal response I got from most I talked to about Selos was "Yea, it's a lot slower than a lot of us were lead to believe". What's going on here guys?

    :(
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  2. Tierdal Augur

    EXP feels fine.
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  3. Lefidous New Member

    People who claim XP feels fine either,

    A) Don't have a job

    B) Haven't done VT key or started working on it

    C) Are an ench, wizard, or cleric

    D) Are contrarians for the sake of being contrarian.
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  4. Master Kahleem Augur


    True, I pretty much ignore anyone who claims that exp is "Fine" when the bulk of the hardcore players (top raid guilds) are saying it IS NOT fine, and i've yet to find someone ingame who says it's fine. It seems to always be forum-warriors who dislike Selos claiming it's "fine".

    To be clear, normal and AA exp is NOT fine on Selos.
  5. Hateseeker Augur

    I think Selo leveling exp seems ok. AA XP does not seem to fit with the advertised description of "fast".
  6. Barton The Mischievous


    It is not slower than advertised , It was advertised as not as fast as live exp , many people pointed this out. Per the FAQ

    Q: What’s the XP rate on Selo?
    Earning experience on the Selo server will be noticeably faster than the rate of other progression servers, but not quite as fast as a normal server.
  7. Machentoo Augur


    Only for a short while right before the server launched, after we asked some pointed questions.
  8. Rotlust Augur



    This sums it up 100%
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  9. Meridian Augur

    You should have stated in your OP that you only wanted to hear from people that agree with you.
  10. Robomax Elder

    AA s won't be fast till POP unlocks.
  11. Robomax Elder

    Selos is for making a statement. They could turn it back to Original game exp? Now That would be a real statement. And Hell LVLs at 30+ every 5 lvls and EVil penalty? And Corpse Runs ? With all that taken out you are going to exp faster with the same percentage rate. People who complain about Exp don't know how to play EQ. A Group of 6(bonus) in a Dungeon(bonus) at normal exp rate in a hot zone (bonus) With your EXP POT on? And your saying its to slow?
  12. Machentoo Augur


    You should not criticize other people for not knowing what they are talking about when you clearly don't.

    There are no hotzone bonuses on selos. And most of the dungeon bonuses got nerfed.
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  13. Master Kahleem Augur

    Speaking about the ZEM modifiers, for the most part, they were almost completely removed. Certain dungeons in later expansions were left alone. ZEM was only an original & kunark thing.
  14. vylo Augur

    1. because the 50% bonus just faded.

    2. the AA is still a bit broken and low.
  15. Machentoo Augur


    Don't think this is correct. As far as I know, every zone in the game has a zem. Not 100% positive on the coding side, but quite clearly, there are zones post kunark that have huge bonuses. Paludal Caverns comes to mind.
  16. Master Kahleem Augur

    I'm saying the ZEM change they did was mainly for classic and kunark zones to quote "promote population disbursement".
  17. Machentoo Augur


    Yes, that's correct, but that doesn't mean the rest of the expansions don't have any ZEMs. They just flattened the ZEMs in kunark and classic.
  18. Olivine New Member

    Tower of frozen shadows in Velious is a good example of this. It's ZEM rates are still very high, especially when in comparison to current kunark and classic zones. It is very noticle in difference going from one to the other.
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  19. KPW99 Lorekeeper

    I've been saying this since the announcement, they should set the server to Test server exp and it would flourish
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  20. andross77 Elder


    You forgot E) don't care to get BiS or all the AA's or keep up with the neckbeards. Just here to chill and take in the nostalgia.

    drama.....