Why 24 hour downtime in July '21?

Discussion in 'The Veterans' Lounge' started by Metanis, Jun 22, 2021.

  1. Herf Augur

    Let us also not forget that, originally, SQL was merely a DB query language. The underlying DB was utterly unrelated technologically.
  2. Bigstomp Augur

    It still is.
    Some perl modules support SQL backed by flat files (been a while, I forget the exact names).
    I'm sure other languages do as well.
  3. Nolrog Augur

    They said in the original announcement that it will include the patch.
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  4. Zanarnar Augur

    SQL, or Structured Query Language, is pretty much database agnostic. For example, just for MySQL (one quite popular open-source relational database) here are your back-end choices: https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/8.0/en/storage-engines.html

    I wish they had gone with a database from the start, but I'm guessing either cost or complexity prevented them from going that route. Shame too.
  5. The real Sandaormo Augur

    Don't forget all this new tech built in 97 and 98 had to squeeze through modems of the time.
    14.4k 28k and then OMG i got the new 56k.
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  6. Metanis Bad Company

    At one point I had 4 analog phone lines in my house for everyone here to play their games! I even rewired my home's modem phone lines with Cat5 cable and soldered the connections to wring every last bit from them. Once in a blue moon I'd see 52k connections but mostly they were 50.6k

    Then my Telco offered ISDN and I was the first residential property in the entire county to have ISDN lines. Technically they delivered 128kbps but your standard PC Com ports could only go up to 115k. I still have the US Robotics ISDN modems in the basement somewhere! And of course then I needed 2 of them so both Reg and I could have our own connection!

    Then I wired the house for 100Mb Ethernet and used a fancy Microsoft package called ICS (Internet Connection Sharing) to feed all the other users in the house from my connection while Reg had her own pristine unshared 115k pipe!
  7. Gherig Addicted since Aug 1st, 1998

    Some of us actually started beta with a 9600. The struggle was real.
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  8. Niskin Clockwork Arguer

    That's hardcore man, never heard of anybody doing that before. I still have my U.S. Robotics external 33.6 modem laying around, just because it's cool looking. Went internal for 56k so none of those got saved.
  9. Jumbur Improved Familiar

    My first char was played on 28.8 baud, it was later upgraded to 56.6 baud and then ISDN.

    It wasn't exactly reliable until I got ISDN though. :oops:
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  10. Accipiter Old Timer

    I identify as "a C++ guy" but these days if I sit down to write something for myself the choice of language is clear. It's going to be C#.
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  11. Accipiter Old Timer

    LOL, someone older than me. ;)
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  12. Niskin Clockwork Arguer

    I keep a Beginning C++ book around just to remind myself that I have it easy. Did a little work with C on Unix, but never had to do C++ beyond goofing around on my own. It's frightening.

    I also thought I'd always prefer Java, but C# has taken over, and I do like it. Javascript, on the other hand, haunts my dreams. So powerful, but also difficult to get right, and a pain to troubleshoot, despite looking like it should be easy to troubleshoot.
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  13. Accipiter Old Timer

    I'm not getting it. NT4 was current back then, no? Unless you're talking much later in EQ's lifetime.
  14. Accipiter Old Timer

    I wrote a few books on the subject.

    I've done a little in that area. It was Actionscript rather than Javascript but the same foundation. Didn't love it, for sure.
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  15. Zynt Augur

    This kind of clarity filled information sharing from people in the know makes me tingle.
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  16. Herf Augur

    My point was that NT, particularly at that time, would have been a crappy OS to run an MMOG on. UNIX or Linux would have been optimal.
  17. Herf Augur

    That was a long time ago and I was still working, and had a life. Neither of that is true now so I need my EQ ;) :D
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  18. Herf Augur

    There are a lot of smart programmers in games companies, but schedules are never accurate so it's common to have to push features out, and hack implementations in a hurry. It's why I got out of that business.
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  19. Bardy McFly Augur

    My company has systems still written in VB6 and even a system still on COBOL. The pain is real.
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  20. Grove Augur

    I remember a phrase that sort of came with my original computer: I speak BASIC to my Apple. I wrote a mini program to facilitate preparation of my IRS annual document. (This avoided having to pay for Excel.) This was well before EverQuest came to the world.