What will the necro DoT change do?

Discussion in 'Casters' started by CrimsonDeath, Dec 5, 2016.

  1. Nindienx New Member

    I am stuck in the past i guess, i use smouldering for the increase in spell damage, before crit, i know the DPS sucks one spell itself but i always thought that the xtra spell damage would help on the whole set. Anyway, i guess i need to parse it.

    Mobs usually live about 30 secs, but i like to have a spell set in place for named. So i usually have 10 or so memmed. I do not have the synergy AA trained yet, i guess i need to get with the program, it worth the 100 AA a crack? right now i am boosting all my focus AAs up on the spells i use.

    Mobs are lasting about 30s, my Mage Box is improving vasstly so i usually pull 2x and pet tank the off

    Also how does Dichotomic Paroxysm work exactly? (been out of game for about 1.5years, just came back about right at EoK release).

    Then i wonder how all this is going to impact me toon with the DOT revamp and AA impact.

    Thanks, 9.
  2. Forcallen Augur

    That bonus damage only applies to our lifetap nukes with at least a 10 mana cost, not other dots.

    Smouldering Shadow
    Classes: NEC/105
    Skill: Alteration
    Mana: 1727
    Target: Single
    Range: 200'
    Resist: Fire -100
    Reflectable: Yes
    Trigger Spell DS: Yes
    Focusable: Yes
    Casting: 3s, Recast: 1.5s, Rest: 1.5s
    Duration: 84s (14 ticks), Dispelable: Yes
    1: Increase Spell Damage Taken by 351 (Before Crit)
    2: Decrease Current HP by 2162 per tick
    3: Limit Effect: Current HP
    4: Limit Type: Detrimental
    5: Limit Min Mana Cost: 10
    6: Limit Type: Exclude Combat Skills
    7: Limit Target: Lifetap
    Text: A burning shadow falls across you.
  3. Forcallen Augur

    This dot line needs to be fixed to work like Mind Storm and return mana while revamps are being handled.

    [44463/9633] Ignite Synapses
    Classes: NEC/104
    Skill: Conjuration
    Mana: 2174
    Target: Single
    Range: 200'
    Resist: Magic -30
    Reflectable: Yes
    Trigger Spell DS: Yes
    Focusable: Yes
    Casting: 3s, Recast: 1.5s, Rest: 1.5s
    Duration: 30s (5 ticks), Dispelable: No
    1: Decrease Current Mana and HP by up to 424 per tick <---- Currently does nothing.
    2: Decrease Current HP by 3314 per tick
    Text: Your mana ignites!


    [45025/6630] Mind Storm
    Classes: ENC/105
    Skill: Alteration
    Mana: 8583
    Target: Single
    Range: 200'
    Resist: Lowest -30
    Reflectable: Yes
    Trigger Spell DS: Yes
    Stacking: Mind Shatter 20
    Focusable: Yes
    Casting: 3s, Recast: 1.5s, Rest: 1.5s
    Duration: 30s (5 ticks), Dispelable: Yes
    Hate Mod: -20832
    2: Decrease Current Mana by 2998 per tick
    4: Decrease Current HP by 26040 per tick
    5: Return 5.8% of Damage as Mana, Max Per Hit: 1073
    Text: Your brain pulses in pain.
  4. Nekk Augur

    For those of you necs still using swarms, you're not dpsing right or much at all using those lines. Prenerf those lines were broken and basically let you kill any named in the game as long as it wasn't a current raid mob. The lines have been nerfed for over a year at least now, maybe close to two. They simply are not doing more dps in place of a dot or a nuke would be doing if you're in a fast paced group. Always swifts first, then regular dots or switch out for some nukes instead of you're in a really good group. The only use for swarm pets is a minor dps increase while holding off a mob for a few seconds to either toss it or allow someone else to pick it off.
  5. Brohg Augur

    Combat Dummy Dena is currently level 110 and has 1281 AC. This is relevant for pet melee, not for the dots.

    0/10 Companion's Aggression
    full Alacrity
    40/46 Companion's Fury
    0/30 Companion's Wrath
    10/13 Extended Swarm

    Enhanced Minion XVIII on Shade's Phase

    Right around 200k damage per Call Skeleton Mob Rk. II
    /GU Combat Dummy Dena in 32s, 189k @5895sdps | #1 Leeni + pets 189k@5895sdps
    /GU Combat Dummy Dena in 30s, 196k @6546sdps | #1 Leeni + pets 196k@6546sdps
    /GU Combat Dummy Dena in 31s, 216k @6956sdps | #1 Leeni + pets 216k@6956sdps
    /GU Combat Dummy Dena in 33s, 224k @6797sdps | #1 Leeni + pets 224k@6797sdps
    /GU Combat Dummy Dena in 31s, 191k @6172sdps | #1 Leeni + pets 191k@6172sdps


    Pyre of Jorobb Rk. II (55-75 focus, +5% robe, +whatever type3, epic 2, 26% detri extension) does ... usually more, but not by a lot, and twice as slowly.

    /GU Combat Dummy Dena in 56s, 206k @3672sdps | #1 Leeni 206k@3672sdps
    /GU Combat Dummy Dena in 57s, 248k @4356sdps | #1 Leeni 248k@4356sdps
    /GU Combat Dummy Dena in 56s, 155k @2763sdps | #1 Leeni 155k@2763sdps (bad crits obv)
    /GU Combat Dummy Dena in 56s, 298k @5313sdps | #1 Leeni 298k@5313sdps
    /GU Combat Dummy Dena in 56s, 319k @5704sdps | #1 Leeni 319k@5704sdps (lol that's better)

    On longer lasting mobs, the dot is advantaged by being boost-able with clickies & discs, absolutely. But it's sure not beating Call Skeletons on sub 1 minute-kill basepop, especially as a potential fourth spell to cast after Swifts.
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  6. GoneFission Augur

    Do the necro swarm pets use shaman Roar of the Lion or Talisman of the Leopard effects?

    And what three swifts are you using? I thought they shared timers across lines so only 2 were available.
  7. Vrinda Augur

    Some share timers and some do not. At 105 I use the fire, disease, and lifetap swift dots. Also, I've seen no evidence that my swarm pets are affected by shaman Roar or the big cat procs.
  8. Sancus Augur

    Group abilities don't affect swarm pets. You can technically target them and cast single target buffs, but given that they're temporary and you have to buff each one individually, it isn't really practical to do so. As a result, in most scenarios the only thing that will boost swarm pets are auras.
  9. Brohg Augur

  10. Raccoo Augur

    Use Ilsaria's Swift Decay and get the swift + a lower dps disease dot that is longer duration for a little more mana.