What is a Bards Job in groups?

Discussion in 'Hybrid' started by James, Jan 14, 2018.

  1. IblisTheMage Augur

    I will look into Boastful once per mob. Spamming it drained me in no time :).
  2. svann Augur

    You know how fulmination works, right? Because when you say you spam it it sounds like you were hitting it again as soon as the cooldown is up, and thats very bad. You gotta wait until after the fulmination hits or you wont ever get a fulmination - and thats the main part of the damage.
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  3. IblisTheMage Augur

    Got it, thanks. I had it on a dps spam button, instead of on a pull or debuf spam button,which was a mistake.

    But I wonder if Bard Dicho song isn´t a better use of endurance in my nuke-heavy and mana-hungry group. Also, 18 sec is too long for what we normally do...

    If I did the maso-bard trick on top, targeting self only, weaving in insults without the risk of being interupted if insults lad between pulls, I would loose the pets I need for mage nuking with Of Many, but the increase in nuke-based dps for the group would probably outweigh the downsides. It just feels a bit meh that to keep a melody with insults uninterupted, one have to do something so “out of character”. A design change here seems adecuate.

    Maybe I should make a “mob dead” button, that shifts target to self, and attempt to keep the song going that way between pulls.
  4. svann Augur

    I have a 2nd melody macro that doesnt include insults to use when there is no mob.
  5. IblisTheMage Augur

    Same, but I don’tlike to restart melody twice pr mob :), it feels like I am wasting benefits for the party....
  6. Tucoh Augur

    This is probably obvious to pro-bards like yourself, but I found that putting my boxed bard on a mount and also wearing an HH Seb fungus tunic (+85 mana regen) helps a lot.

    http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=128591



    For this thread in general, I've started looking at how my bard can improve resist checks for the group.

    I have the HH Seb's Darkened Journeyman's Walking stick.
    http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=128539

    Last night I did my first Old Man McKenzie mission to try and farm my bard up an Orb of Tishan.
    http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=85171

    I'm also wondering if I won't be able to box the Lord Nagafen raid in HH Nagafen's Lair.
    http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=7173

    and get the Selo's Drum with the Chant of Chaos clicky.
    http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=112971


    I'm not sure how much value I get out of those items though, and whether it's worth trying to tash/malo/chaos each mob.
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  7. Brohg Augur

  8. Tucoh Augur

    Nice timing, saved me a lot of time!
  9. Tucoh Augur

    Got it on the second spawn, brb buying lotto tickets.
  10. Brohg Augur

    fwiw, I approximately never use mine. but may as well have the best if you're going to carry an item around
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  11. Tucoh Augur

    Yeah, seems like the Selo's Drums are a must have though, unless I'm misunderstanding what they do and how they work.
    http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=112971
  12. Brohg Augur

    item clicks aren't magnified by instruments, so you only get the base debuff. but yes, absolutely using those all the time. Drums+Bellow+/pet swarm hotkey
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  13. ptah Augur

    OK how is I miss out on all the fun.
    Mix match dou with bard.. either mage or war... rarely chanter or nec.

    Aria insult suffer haste melody insult.. then its situational needs.. reckless pulse churus..2 or 3.. smaller % of the time is mixed in slow snare..

    The whole afk bard in corner is a real thing to power play a mash heavy class.. IE at times I will do this on Mage box.. and really burn up the mana needs.. but I truly support 10 12 mins of near 100% dps and 2 or 3 mins ooc regen.. reset tune in head.. 10 min burns.. and the mental break.. yay.

    The balancing act on bard mana and endo is match up to needs or kill rate of the group.. so what if the bard in question loses 25k or 100k in dps.. if the overall mod setup is a plus 400 to 500k mod to the group.

    Very rewarding to see zerker, rogues, monks, alive rangers, beasties.. all up in arms about new PR new PR in my burn.. Yes that your friendly bard singing to your ego.. Your the best.. oh yes.. Danielson.
  14. Fohpo Augur

    This post should come with an instruction manual.
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  15. ptah Augur

    sorry Fobpo sorry .. at times I get a little too excited and have issues with conveying my thought from words to paper.. red bull mod to mind is mix match of good and bad.

    breathe.. breathe.. ok
    Aria
    insult
    suffering
    haste
    melody
    insult
    pulse churse or basically anything.. AC reckless etc

    that is basic 7.. run with or with Tune to the head..
    Haste aura or regen.. most benefits are haste pastie.. but I do use the mana line at times.

    Bellow clicks if mob is up for greater than 18s. if less.. move to better mobs..
    Epic, FE QT, indim, bp. pets pets pets pets pets.. different timers. use as needed to mod whats in group.
    Disc for your mana stuffs for others.. via reflex
    deftdance and toggle agro if wanta do that.. its ok
    third spire 80% of the time.. 2nd if its more caster heavy
    sword click for attack and haste depth

    Bark orders in group. MASTER MASTER MASTER of Puppets !!!
  16. ptah Augur

    I also find yelling at trees. err rangers to disc with me.. when I want it. and basically playing like a leader helps the group focus and play at my tempo.. I'm bard.. play at my speed.. dance with me if you wanta too.. enjoy the light; Taste the richs of the fancy boy and his songs.. once you get it.. you will never turn back. ever never..