That's not true. Most SK dps was always primarily melee. Around SoF there was a climb in spell dps - particularly on burns - and a stagnation of our melee dps. On burns today, 55-60% of our dps comes from spells (that includes HT, clicks, and our pathetic pet), which just further highlights how screwed up our melee dps has become and is the driving factor behind why SKs are so behind where they should be dps-wise.
Sojero why are you putting a warrior in a dps group when in reality well be grouped with 2 other warriors, 2 clerics and a paladin or sk. Adding a perfect dps group burn is silly and then not even going full out on the beserker ? The true beserker burn in that group would be more like 200 k on the dummy. We will never be put in that group set up even when there is a mediocre true dps player taking that spot. Xanathol go parse both on ragefire or lockjaw I guarantee the sk with no spells being cast is 20% behind the warriors in melee dps. Or just look at the aa's we got all the melee aa that increases our dps before you even thought about it.
Might as well parse necro melee dps vs warrior while you're at it. That 2H defensive parse is really short. Did the Warrior die? Lol In my parses the thing that stands out most is Shield Specialist is scaling up with ADPS much better than DW or 2H proficiency. Haste should be linear but there seems like a lot of extra damage from just extra atk and zerker aura, so maybe Punishing Blade + Bard Arias don't stack perfectly? Either way, this isn't exactly new information, but it's very apparent with only a couple of buffs. All the more reason that penalties are double murder, especially when DW is putting up really unimpressive numbers. I noticed Soj didn't parse DW, but if you follow that path further you'd likely see better burns from 1H than DW proficiency, particularly on short fights where heroic blade is used.
Ever played in the group game and ran with a group of : Tank 1 - war/pal/sk <-- doing the tanking Tank2 - war Zerker Shaman Bst bard I certainly have, and actually try and stack my groups with as much dps as I can, but have had times where there were multiple tanks lfg so one did dps. Heck I have had groups that were 5 tanks + a healer. Also not every raid has the luxury of having perfect setups, somtimes we will have 8-10 tanks log on and 1 group or less of melee dps then a couple groups of caster, and yeah you can throw a tank or 2 in a dps group then. I am in no way and have never said that is optimal, but life sometimes throws you things you don't want. I also stated that the Zerker would have been higher and why you cannot parse that over a 30 minute time period, I can burn up to 250k on mine for about 30 sec, and 200k for 1 min. I am getting better at him so maybe higher soon. I also didnt have access to a ranger, so that would have made it higher too.
Again and again you show your ignorance in the way the mechanics of eq dps works. Your parses are not worth the bits that we wasted to post them. Mine are not anywhere near what I wanted, but are close enough to be within 3% margin error. The point of adding in the zerker, other than having some fun for myself, was to show that war are close in base damage to a zerker, its the aa and discs that make the larger difference for the zerker. Also the reason that zerkers are not that much more dps over a longer period of time. They are a burst class that shines, and then carries that burst out, and doesn't translate nearly as well to the group game. Also take the time to look at the total damage, he didn't die, he never dropped below 75% health, he killed it 2x faster with 2h prof because he was doing 2x the dps.
Our dps is very burst also when burning a disc. So you should compare them the same and making the game for the most optimal and perfect setting is the worst thing they could ever do. It should be made for realistic settings and no I never group with another tank they should be out helping another entire group progress except when were raiding. I also try to group with clerics since we should have close connections with each other and know each others play styles. The very rare occasions I do group with one would be like tower of rot group mission or argin hiz group mission or grelleth group mission. For exp I take me a bard hopefully 3 whatever dps and a cleric to grind a level cap. And I do that because you know I want to have fun and not wait around for a perfect setting. And you used offensive discipline on the warrior ? Thats not base damage ? Base damage would be no buffs auto attacking. Not counting the stance (as in you could use this to compare) .
Really, Really!!! do some math! he took 104 hits out of 196 attempts, he defended, dodged, reposted etc the other 88. please double check your posts before you do it, your making to to easy to show you've taken a couple to many blows to the head while tanking.
No interest in those servers at all and that would be pointless because those servers are EQ today, redux, not EQ as was. However, you are more than welcome to fire off your own p99 and see for yourself that SKs were behind Warriors in melee but 20% is pushing it. As far as AAs you get, check history again - at first, as Warriors were introduced AAs in one expansion, knights were caught up in the next as they realized the mistake. Over time there has indeed been a spread that was created in err, which is the gaft I was referring to that they choose to address around SoF but went with spell dps alone instead of melee too as they should have. In other words, over time, those in charged screwed up. Realize that this is just a rebuttal to the claim you made that over half of SK dps has always been spells and always will be, which is inaccurate; I've voiced my concerns over SK dps in my own thread, which has validated them. As I've stated in this thread before, I do agree that the penalties on 2her prof should be dropped - you are already under penalty just equipping a 2her by losing block, shield AC, and stats.
The game was balanced that way xanathol you were prolly 20% behind a good warrior in all dps because it was warriors = baseline knights 80% true dps 120%. It was added later not as a mistake but intentional balancing . I never went anywhere but wow for a year in oow I been here the whole time.
Looks like we've come a long way from: as you've done little but argue and troll in this thread. If you're going to fill up this thread with posts to fill up your time, I'd appreciate if they were more constructive, suggestion-based posts that actually benefit the class in question (warrior)
