Thought I would try those two programs out on EQ a week ago. I DLed them and got going pretty smoothly except for my email that I've had since forever was for the first time ever notified of an attempted login from the Netherlands. I've had this hotmail account for like 20 years and I don't download things off the internet that isn't from Steam or another platform. Is it possible that is just a coincidence? Yes. But in case you don't know how that setup works, it uses keystrokes to log your input and can broadcast it to other boxes on the same PC. Now imagine using ur boxing setup with them and you go log onto your hotmail account. Now the log of your strokes are in those programs, including your password. If you do not have multiple step authenticator on anything that they are able to get you to use while using those programs then they will be able to log into it. They were able to change my PW, apparently more than just an attempt, on my hotmail but my old hotmail was the only thing that was vulnerable. Just my story, could be a fluke, or it could be the 3rd party key logging software.