Verina Tomb

The one who comes crying to the forums and expects everyone to agree with them.

Dont fire shots at me its called being a bro or a friend hell even being a loyal guildie and hanging out at the enc spawns. You dont see wizards in here cryin a fit cuz they have to camp broken golem in OW PoFear. Yes, it sucks the enc epic has 3 rough bottlenecks Shissar in fear (which has MOTM cuz reasons), cab, neriak but at this point i wouldnt bother unless you stumble upon the epic mobs by chance. The click is subpar now and a proper raid guild can obtain better than epic for a MH and luclin in 2 months and change will even further make it irellivant

Yeah, I would just give up on the enchanter epic, the game is more fun if you write it off. I did... (though I actually managed to get my chanter her epic. Had everything but vessel when I gave up, was loitering around cab with my necro and thought what the heck, I'll check vessel for funsies. What do ya know he was up, and no one was even in the room. Had a couple iksar guildies origin and help me kill him. Took a whole 15 minutes.)

Who says it's not poorly designed? You... the subject matter expert?

In this world of 2016 that we live in, any action that requires players to be inactive for significant amounts of time would be considered a design failure. Sitting at a spawn is being inactive in game terms. You might be chatting with your guild or whatever, but your character is essentially inactive due to the requirements of a game objective (epic quest piece).

In this world of 2016 player retention focuses on two key areas, offline and online. Online player retention means keeping your players active in game. Having them sit at an empty spawn, or spawn with some placeholder where you're killing one mob every 22 minutes or whatever, is failure to keep the player active in the game. But hey, at least they're winning the offline retention game, because that player is now on the message board asking the dev gods why they have forsaken him or her.

I think you just need to get over yourself.. Verina Tomb respawn is fine.. Sure they could speed it up a little but bard epic change is not much a buff but a rollback to what the epic was before the "convenience" changes back after Velious was original released and more people were trying for their epics since originally you HAD to kill Trakanon for the undead guts not a fake wannabe Trakanon and the only reason the devs changed it was basically because they sped Trakanons respawn timer from 7 days to 1 day for these silly TLPs cause you wannabe haves wanted to have a shot at killing Trakanon too...

Most people ain't saying they should leave Verina alone its more that everytime you guys want the respawn timer decreased you throw out your Bard Trakanon buff out as a example why it should be changed and your doing nothing but comparing apples to watermelons

Trak's original spawn timer was 7 days, so with the "rollback" Trak spawns about 7 times as often, this is before you even bother talking about how you can do instanced Trak on phinny or how UDB was spawning 14 times as often as Trak did original compared to VT which spawns roughly twice as often. Lets be honest even if you removed the entire first staff from the chanter epic VT, VD Prince+turn-ins and Oggok quest it would still be the most time consuming epic to finish.

I think the real issue is there are thousands of enchanters on this server!

Well you got a point.. Nerf Charm and solve all your problems! lol

Maybe then we'll have close to how many enchanters there were back then and more VT spawns for everyone!

A epic time consuming? Say it isn't so..

Doah, your first problem is complaining about an epic mob that still has at least 4 groups of people contesting it every spawn. You should just know when it's going to respawn, or use software to alert you when it spawns in the middle of the night so that you don't have to contest it. I'm sorry if you have a job or kids, epics aren't for everybody!

I think this is the problem. Anyone with a job or kids, etc can get a lot of the epics pretty easily. Druid, for example, is tedious and involves a lot of separate kills, but much of it is soloable, there are only a few fights you need friends for. Other epics are similarly not that hard.

But there are a few bottlenecks with a few of the epics to make them that much harder than the others in reality, at least when they're still highly contested.

It has always been the case that some epics were harder than others, but different dynamics on the TLPs have made different epics hardest now.

Yes in this world of 2016 you possess the typical millennial attitude… I want it now… now… now… mine… mine… mine… me…me…me…
Instant gratification. No work involved. Gimme the trophy for attendance, I earned it.

What you do while camping is on you. You make the fun out of whatever you’re doing. The quest is epic. This is EVERquest. I don’t see “hand it to you on an effortless platter-Quest” anywhere in the title. People don’t wanna do the work needed, but they want the reward. More millennial crap.

Yes that one or few players. A vocal minority is not representative of the majority. Nothing like advocating for the devaluing of content.


Seems like you could use some patients and awareness that this game doesn’t revolve around your perspective.

Resurrecting this thread to parrot my support of lower spawn rates of some of these epic mobs to make it less of an insane grind.
+1 for lower spawn rates of Verina, Vessel and Wraith (Broken Golem too)