Vanglorious Shout

Discussion in 'Hybrid' started by Cicelee, May 16, 2018.

  1. Cicelee Augur

    On bard I use Boastful Bellow to help DPS. Someone said to also use Vanglorious Shout as well. However I think the description said something about pushing mobs away, and VS being AOE or frontal arc hitting multiple targets.

    Is the description wrong? When is it safe and feasible to use VS? Can I do BB and VS at same time or do they overwrite each other?

    Thanks in advance for your help and comments...
  2. Bumkus Elder

    VS and BB share a timer, but you can overlap them since the timer refreshes before the effect goes off on mob. VS is AE and can wipe you if used close to mobs you dont want to aggro
  3. Nniki Augur

    Boastful Bellow and Vainglorious Shout had a push component before RoS changes. They no longer have a push component.

    Vainglorious Shout is Target: Directional AE (300 to 60 Degrees).

    Here are the current in-game descriptions:

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    You don't want to use it when you don't want to AE damage something essentially, such as mezzable mobs, mobs you don't want to aggro, or just any mobs you simply don't want to damage outside of your current target. Also, just like Bellow, you don't want to use it if you don't want the target(s) to take damage 18 seconds later.

    If you are fighting around mobs you don't want to damage, just make sure you are positioned so that you don't hit them with the directional AE:

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    Note that directional AEs can hit mobs through zone geometry (through floor / wall if close enough), so be careful in certain zones.


    They can both be on the target at the same time. Shared recast timer, but the recast is 12s while the duration is 18s, so it's beneficial to rotate them on a single target when possible. If you have multiple targets that can be AE'd, you'll just want to cycle shout by waiting out the 18s duration before refreshing it so that Boastful Conclusion fires.

    Duration can of course vary based on server tick... might see 18-23s duration.

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    Just note that Vainglorious Shout is focusable, so if you're running Tune Stuck in Your Head, you're going to have to wait an additional tick for shout to wear off... so, if you're trying to maximize DPS from shout, you don't want to run Tune Stuck in Your Head.
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  4. Cicelee Augur

    Much thanks for that! So essentially VS is the AE version of BB...
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