Tone down Brother Qwinn and Brother Zephyl

The ancient cyclopes can be done even though there is a 6 boxer mage in the area.
Thing is you can burn the mob down. I'msure the brothers were like that before they
Brother Zephyl, Brother Qwinn, Ran’un, Brother Velan Torresk, and Thena Lonnes have grown in strength
Ancient cyclopes doable even though boxers are around.

Stuff where you need a group, not doable when a boxer is around because they already the drill.
Charm gate, or outdps them or do another thing. They already know the drill. Your the victim.

When you can just burn it before they get there, too bad for them. You beat the boxer group.

Why make stuff stronger.
They don't take in consideration competition.
A new server, what are people doing, especially boxers?
Farming kronos.
Which items are going for a lot of kronos.
Oh ok lets farm that.

8 kronos if you want it. Sure you can kill but boxer says leave thats mine.

What was the whole point of this rant? They aren't going to change truebox, they aren't going to get rid of boxers. None of those things are going to happen. Play the game in front of you and do what you need to do to accomplish your goals. You have accomplished nothing by whining about something folks have been whining about for decades.

Its a lot of issues they have.

Have mercy on them, for they know not what they do.

The monk epic mobs might just had been made more powerfull to force the players into going for the quest route. The whole true box policy is laughable and does only puzzle the players: True box -> loosened true box at expansion ## -> no true box anymore at expansion ##. Either remove true box completely, or enforce it ! There are to many weak and inconsequent decision makers at team Darkpaw.

Same with boxers, who are not liked by the devs, but are needed to keep the game running. Very boxer unfriendly game policy. The installation of personas, instead turning achievements and marketplace features into account-wide ones, and adding two additional character slots to the accounts.

"the lunatic" is right

You do realize that Brothers Z and Q were never soloable by a monk right? So you're going to be just as screwed if they reverted the change. If they tone it down, you're still going to lose to the boxer. Your arguments are horrible. As others have said, just go do the SOLO quest and stop your crying. They aren't trying to make things for the boxers no matter how much you try and believe otherwise.

Or maybe here me out.... They don't drop the robe anymore and people do the actual quest instead of making it easier.

Just give them MotM and be done with it.

I'd say the opposite. Ramp up the monks. Make it near impossible to do, so you actually have to do the quests for the robe.

Part of the reason for instances was so people epics can do their epics right?

Well... Hello?

Just do the questline,

The sash quest will take you about an hour - hour and a half to complete.

The headband up to the red headband will also take you about an hour to an hour and half, the hardest part of the headband is really just getting the heads.

Then really the only other time sink is raster you can buy the code of zanfi in the tunnel for cheap.

My biggest problem was getting Brother Qwinn to spawn in SK. Raster (original) took some time but was overall an easy part. No PHs were mentioned on ZAM in those days (~2017), and the lack of other players in that zone was making it more difficult. In the early years there were always people spawning him by just killing random mobs, so that he was an easy catch.

The ships has sailed. I used to level all my characters is SK. The only thing available there is the Aviak Village now. Looks to me like more than just boxing if you get my drift.

I don't condone it, I just give in to reality. For most of us it is a game and a good one. For others, it is all about greed and making a buck. Name pops in SK, a literal herd of characters in a tight group will swarm in and kill steal it. It is that simple of an equation: Kill steal from this clown<that being myself> and I make a Krono/$10+ selling the loot. It is like someone scattered $10 bills in the game and people are playing PacMan.

There is a certain futility in thinking anything can or well be different. It's a bit of a feeding frenzy like blood in the water to a shark. Yeah, it would be nice if it rained wine and the rivers were whiskey.

People that like money or the easy route to a maxed out character outnumber the people who play the game me thinks. There aren't only people selling loot for RMT, there are people buying it and contracting for leveling services.

I kind of gave up on good guys always win and virtue about the same time I found out ice cream cones were hollow under the scoop. You scatter bird seed, you get pigeons.

c'est la vie

Yes, for things that were limited, such as Phinigel. That has nothing to do with monks, however. The sash and headband quests aren't that difficult. It used to be almost a rite of tradition for a monk to earn their sash and headband. To me, it seems so cheesy to just kill the brother for the robe.

I would fully support Daybreak amping up the difficulty of the mob or even removing the robe from its loot table.

ssshhhhh
Your making WAY to much sense

Couldn't agree more, just take the robe off the brother's loot table, problem solved. The only other epic that let you skip everything was the shaman one and they nerfed that, they should nerf this as well.

They would need to update this site then,
https://www.eqprogression.com/monk-1-0-epic-quest/

They don't even tell you how to do the other way.
I will not be going into details on this path since Option 2, which also can be long, is more time efficient.
Option 2, rare named: Brother Qwinn and Brother Zephyl

What does that site have to do with changes to the gameplay of EQ. I highly doubt DPG gives two thoughts to how private individuals will have to adjust their privately maintained websites.

It would be out of date.

That was a comment on the comment of remove the robe from the brothers.
After you remove the robes, that is not good anymore, goes into my other thread,
https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq...on-not-very-good-for-tlp.298764/#post-4321097

So thats why. They don't mention option 1, so those people looking at that guide, they wouldn't know what to do, can't get robes from brothers, the site doesn't say how to do the other option.

Those guides have nothing to do with DBG. Updated, not updated DBG doesn't care, and they aren't going to make or not make changes to the game because a fan website might need to be updated. There are other places to look up the info, or just play the game and figure it out.