TLP/PoP era, soloing older content?

I'd been enjoying the return to EQ on Agnarr the last few months, keeping the account going with the eventual goal of getting 65, some gear and AA's, and being able to solo some zones and bosses that took groups or raids when I played back in Classic-Luclin days.

I'd been main'ing a Magician towards that, seemed like the logical class, then I came across a post ( "65 mage solo old world", https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq/index.php?threads/65-mage-solo-old-world.249382/ ) and discovered MotM is a thing.

If I understand it right, pets are outright ignored by old world bosses now unless the server is advanced passed Omens or Dragons?

That being the case, are there any classes of the era Agnarr is in capable of soloing Classic -Kunark bosses, or Velius-Luclin? Would a Paladin or Shadowknight be a better choice or maybe Shaman? Or is it just not achievable without boxing or moving to a different server?

Agnarr vets probably have a better answer, but I'm guessing near best in slot Shaman, Shadow Knight, Ranger, Monk, Beastlords could probably solo Classic bosses that don't DT, and Kunark dragons. It will take some raiding first, though. Group gear isn't going to get you soloing much of that.

Cool, if it's at least possible I'm sticking with Agnarr. It was always a long term goal and I figured some higher tier raid gear from PoP would be needed. My SK and Ranger were higher up what I've leveled anyway. Looks like the Mage and Necro are going back in the toy box though.

Classic dragons are 1-group-able in Kunark

He asked about soloing them in LDON.

Right. And as they're one-groupable in Kunark, they're that much easier in LDoN - which is the context that was being provided.

MotM aside, any raid flagged enemy in EQ will ignore pets if there is any player in melee range they can attack instead regardless of threat, and since these early dragons are all belly casters your mage would end up tanking them regardless (unless you just stand way back and let the pet solo dps the thing).

You won't solo any raid content on Agnarr. Period. Full stop. You can one-group (six toons) some of it, but not all. Agnarr is intended to be a social server where you actually play with other people when the time comes for it.

That's not true. I can easily solo Nagafen, Vox, and Phinny, as far as classic mobs go. As an SK, btw. I think a Shaman can also do that. Otherwise if you're trying to solo raid content that's about the best you can hope for.

The Kunark dragons are slightly harder. I think you could probably solo Fay, Sev, Tal, Gore, but you'd need to use glyphs most likely. I haven't actually tried that, but I expect I could.

Note that you can't do that until you're almost fully BIS. It'll take about 15-18 months of raiding in a good guild to get there on a char. I doubt any class other than SK, Shaman, MAYBE BST & Necro could do those mobs.

And also, almost anything on Agnarr can be done with 1 group prior to the elemental gods.

Awesome, thank you for an educated and experienced answer.

Out of curiosity, why isn't a Paladin on that list? Or maybe a Ranger with the Classic content?

Yeah, in the OP "getting 65, some gear and AA's," assumed probably needing to raid PoT, at a minimum the tier 4 raids, and spending a few months racking up AA powers before it could be attempted (and that assumption was before I knew about MOTM or the HP buff old world bosses received).

I've thought about this for Misc, but agnarr works too.... I imagine grummus could be 2 boxed with a knight/monk and SHM. Would be something xeris could try as he's gotta be at least near bis.

Does MotM only apply on bosses like the named dragons, etc.? "Final" bosses of raid zones? Or does it apply on lesser bosses or trash creatures in those zones too?

For example, can a decently geared 65 with a few AA at least still go an #@%& up the rest of say Old Sebilis or Permafrost as long as they don't fight Trak or Lady V directly?

But that's the point, you have to be in a guild and get a bunch of BiS gear on a toon before you can even attempt to solo a raid-flagged target. The OP made it clear he wanted to solo from the start, and I stand by claim that it can't be done that way, with any class.

"and being able to solo some zones and bosses that took groups or raids when I played back in Classic-Luclin days."

Where are you getting that I intended to play all solo, only solo, the whole way? I'm not seeing anything in my OP that says that.

yes it only applies to raid targets themselves, but not limited to only the "final" boss

in seb only trak will have it cause hes the only raid target

in tov every dragon will have it cause they are all raid targets

The OP never said anything about soloing 1-65 , he asked about soloing content once 65 with some aa's, where do you get that from? so your understanding of his question is not very accurate.

Ok, so at least adventuring in formerly raid zones is fine as long as what you fight isn’t specifically a raid boss/mob. Exploring, dealing with trash mobs, would be easier on a pet class... but MotM still means to attempt everything it’s probably better to just switch classes now.

Yeah, he’s ignoring parts and adding things in his head so he could rant and toss insults in that last one (edit: which appears to have been taken down). I’m not a chef in Grobb, not feeding that troll anymore. Everyone else has reading comprehension and has been helpful.

You asked a question, I gave you my answer. You're free to ignore it if you so choose.

There's no such thing as a "former" raid zone. If it was a raid zone in-era, it's still one now. The bigger raid targets all have AoCs now, and you can choose to use those or fight/evade the open-world version of the same target(s). There will be quite a few mobs not in AoCs which will still be flagged as raid targets and will have some level of MotM on them. Note that there are five different levels of MotM, depending on a dev assessment of the intended difficulty of the mob. If you choose to use a reference site like Alla, you can get a list of all the targets in a zone which are flagged as raid, and what level of MotM is on each. Or you can choose to "explore" by trial and error. I personally don't think a pet class would make things any easier, because you'll keep running up against OW targets with some level of MotM where pets simply won't work. YMMV. A lot of people roll mages because they can steamroll the easier content and make grinding for plat a breeze.

To answer another ? in your OP, MotM on Classic mobs goes away when GoD unlocks, so it will never happen on Agnarr. Kunark's MotM goes away at OOW, I think, and from there on it's staggered like five expansions ahead. Live servers do not have MotM, so there you can solo Classic content to your heart's content, it will just take a while to build up your arsenal.

All servers are intended to be social as the game is meant to be a group game.