I don't know if any of you folks who beat this are ready to share your knowledge yet, but I figured I would try anyways On the surface, this looked to be pretty easy going by description on EQresource. However, I haven't been able to get out of the first phase. First try: Did some recon before engage, knew there were adds. Seen that there were 4 - 5 giants looking in, figured they would be the adds. Started the mission. Was surprised at how quickly the avatar's health went down. Don't know if the add's are timed or HP based, but I quickly had 4 extra giants. Noticed some kind of floating axe too. Got 1 giant dead and ended up missing the emote on my cleric. Shortly after, wipe. Second try: Decided to try and slow and steady approach making sure to deal with adds first and focusing on emotes and then work on Avatar once they are done. This try went way better. Got down to 2 add's, 1 giant and an axe. Then I got confused, because I got more giant add's. I had just assumed that there wouldn't be any more adds than what were initially there. Struggling to get things positioned with my boxes on autofollow, missed an emote and lead to a wipe. Questions: What triggers when the adds come? What is with the floating axes? Is there a limit to how many giant and/or axe adds I will get? If there is no limit, how have some of you been doing this? Do you get Avatar down into the next phase as quickly as you can and then kill adds?