Time for Monks to Get "Heart Strike" rangers already got headshot!

I don't understand why you're advocating for a gimmick that can only proc on certain mobs vs just straight up increase to base melee damage done across auto-attack and activated discipline attacks.

Because Monks have been advocating for precisely that for the last 5 years with no success. So OP is taking a different tack.

Asked and answered. Next!

Since rogues and zerkers have a high damage ability and us being the only other pure melee dps it does make sense. Of course rangers have headshot as another ability of that type.

For me I think a high damage ability for undercon mobs would just make us too much like the others above, I'd like to see something different.

Since we have resonant kicks and resonant strikes I think it would make sense to give us a high damage punch that procs off strikes, similar to that of thunderkick but from tigerclaws.

Make it similar to thunderkick damage if it will proc on any level of mobs, or make it massive damage like 10x if only on undercons. I'd like to see it on all mob levels so our class remains a bit different.

We really haven't though. We've been more advocating for them to stop giving us upgraded versions of combat abilities and disciplines that no one uses for the past 5-10+ years with no success. Further what the OP is asking for is something many monks specifically do not want and have actively campaigned against.

"Many" Monks do not want additional ways to be useful to their group and raid?

Look, I'm not saying a Monk version of headshot/decap/assasinate is the greatest idea in the world. And it's clear as crystal the devs have actively allowed Monks to stagnate while other classes bring more utility, more DPS, and more support to raids and groups. But it has been asked for several times.

This is why I said what I said. Since Monks clearly aren't being tuned to keep them relevant, how about advocating for something different that other DPS/hybrids get and Monks are mysteriously left out of?

It isn't mysterious. It is because we didn't want it. We have had similar abilities given and then used to nerf us over all and then had the ability specifically nerfed on top of it.

Groups are only going to see a minimal benefit from it, and raids next to no actual benefit. Giving monks an ability like that will not benefit monks in group or raid settings. It will make it a bit easier for us to solo, but that is about it.

The Devs ignoring us is not because of what we are asking for, it is just that they don't care to listen to us at all. This isn't new. We had to spend almost 7 or 8 years telling them that the Step line was pointless after the Synergy line was on the same timer, so stop making them or move it to a different timer. The same thing has been going on with a number of other combat abilties for the last 7 or 8 years where no on uses them but they still make them ever level increase, even though we have told them every time that they are pointless. The point is to be asking for things that are actually good and useful when they finally do decide to listen. Also, keep in mind that the classes that do have have a number of people that would rather they be replaced with something else like what we have been asking for.

7 or 8 years of being ignored and you're optimistic?

I guess we're both living in fantasy-land.

We get ignored for 7-8 years and then get a boon. It isn't being optimistic, it is just looking back on history and knowing how long the Dev's can completely ignore us before everyone starts saying that we need attention, and then 2 or 3 years after that we get some.

Then the boon will put us at about where we should be overall but ahead of a few classes who need boosts after similarly being ignored for years; and we will be nerfed, then the boon will be nerfed, and then the other classes that got us nerfed will be buffed and just left to degrade again. We'll be better than we were before it all, but still at the bottom. However everyone will still remember how we were unnerfed and with the original version of the boon, so they won't think of us as needing anything for a while.

I would be happy if they turned the five point palm AA into a passive, and made it proc off our fist attacks (eagle, tiger etc)

I don't think it was ever meta, but Inna/EP(Elec) was probably the most fun I ever had before the Justice set.

Most monks would not like that because FPP is used for grabbing agro, and if it was a passive proc we would pull agro all the time at random.

Over the past few years, I’ve been watching the forums, and it seems like the Devs don’t care about the opinions on the forums at all. If we’re making unreasonable requests, there’s nothing we can do about it, but I’d like them to know that many Monk players are dissatisfied.

Have to agree that Monks are not doing well currently. One of the HUGE problems right now is Tanks are doing massive amounts of DPS. Our guild is 100% TS raid geared. Top 10 are SK, necro, beast, and Mage. Rarely the rogue sneaks in there for humanoid heavy raids bur you won't ever see a monk or a zerker anymore.

Maybe monks should get something for low level trash elimination. That said, monks are more tanky than other DPS classes, so we really don't need it to survive. We also have FD. I do not consider Monks to be a broken class.

Make it the same as the berserker decapitation, for that matter take decapitation from berserkers and just give it to monks. In a 3 hour raid (7 events) it contributed 0.015% of the total damage (triggered 122 times). Its so negligible that eqlogparser doesn't even have it as an option to turn off like headshot or assassinate.

A well played monk parses about the same as a berserker.

Same here

If I remember right, monks were the first to get a hard hitting one shot ability and then they nerfed it in the revamp, even though it kinda sucked. Then they proceeded to give everyone else the ability. I think that ashenhand was the skill that originally did it but hardly worked, back when we had the laughable 24 point thunderfoot ability lol.

Beta's up. Monks not looking good.

7-8 years ignored is looking more like 9-10. Maybe next year, yeah?

Monks - the happy whipping boy class.

Monks are running against the crit cap, if not over the effective usage of crit on raids. They will get worse very quickly if something is not done. Same thing for rogues.

Honestly, 2ish days into beta is way too soon to be making any claims yet.