/tgb removal is going to hurt :(

Discussion in 'The Veterans' Lounge' started by Angahran, Sep 18, 2018.

  1. Millianna Augur

    I am not changing my play style based on a stupid change by daybreak. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with focusing on my own group. If that ever becomes problem, then my guild can go find another healer.
  2. Aurmoon Augur

    This is really rare for me to say because I always try to be super cordial when discussing, but Millianna:

    Your comments are demonstrative of the fact that you either (a) do not understand the specific game mechanics that determine whether a buff hits your group or your targets group, or (b) are unwilling to consider an incredibly simple alternative means of addressing the concerns that you have flagged in your posts. If you want to dig your heels in protest, go right ahead, but you are only damaging yourself and your guildmates.
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  3. Gnomereaper Augur

    Well, this also isn't a sort of change the devs didn't have to make. This was massive server lag inside of guild raid instances, which was affecting a lot of people to make the change necessary. While I'm not a huge fan of making a change to other's playstyles, this was a necessary thing to have happen. Especially if raid lag has decreased, then it was a success and helps out a lot of people.

    It's a bad change to play style for some, but it wasn't a decision made without the best of intentions and to help the raid game survive. There are hundreds of players that are raiders to some extent, and this would eventually affect them as well. The game has some stiff competition from some of the best MMO's out there like WoW and Eve and Pantheon on the horizon. And laggy raiding isn't some are going to put up with forever. Losing player base isn't healthy for anyone at this point.
  4. Warzon Lorekeeper


    No I understand, I just already use that to save another target, not the MT. For instance, I can put the ramp tank in my tab target cycle:

    Target the ramp tank, hit tab. At this point you are targeting yourself, and the ramp tank has been saved by the game into the toggle spot.
    Hit escape.
    Target other things by any other means.
    At any point can re-acquire the ramp tank by hitting F1 (target self) and then hitting tab again.

    The ramp tank and particular npc's (such as in escort quests) are who I typically use this for. Keep in mind that the extended target window is disabled on TLPs until...very late.

    The workaround I'm using now is just not trying to use those spells in most cases. It's been awhile since mana was really an issue so the efficiency isn't needed. Feels like poor form but I'll figure something better out eventually.

    If what Gnomereaper says is true and the tgb toggle was causing lag on raids then that's a valid reason to make the adjustment. And of all the adjustments they could have made, I prefer it on by default as opposed to tgb disabled altogether or group heal over time spells being flagged non-tgbable or some worse solution.
  5. Millianna Augur

    I completely understand what are saying but don’t care. I repurposed my tab key a long time ago. I’m telling you to change your preferences, so don’t tell me to change mine.
  6. Millianna Augur

    13 LDs across two raids. Raid emotes being broadcasted after ability has been triggered. Did anyone really get less lag on raids?
  7. svann Augur

    Posted in the other TGB thread:
    Sounds like he may be willing to work with you if you talk to him. Not that this will be reversed but that specific spells might be excluded.
  8. Verily Tjark Augur

    Well.considering the change went live, you don't really have a choice but to change your play style....

    Listen, I'm an enchanter. My personal playstyles have been jacked with more than most other classes in recent years. I complained, sometimes a lot, but I have just learned to deal with it and move on. Perhaps, it's time to do that.
  9. Millianna Augur

    My play style is to keep any tanks I am watching (not in group) targeted the majority of time. As of the patch, I am no longer watching tanks outside my group (an assignment). My play style hasn’t changed at all.
  10. Verily Tjark Augur

    Good grief.... best of luck to you.
  11. Karhar Augur

    If targetable group spells like cleric group Hot's get changed because a handful of people are angry at /tgb off/on command removed, there's going to be a ton more people upset about that than this change.
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  12. Smokezz Augur

    Ummm, yes. Hoshkar and Sathir's Line had virtually no lag when the event started up this week. First time we did it after the patch. Last week both of these events tended to be very laggy for the first 45-60s. As for LD, server side lag never caused LD's. Sounds like you had ISP problems.
  13. Kazz99 Elder

    Well, to me, it sounds like he is lazy, pure and simple, he wants to be able to cast group HoTS, etc and ONLY land them on group or the MT (and his group) and not swap targets at all, (keeping the MT targeted the whole time) just by toggling tgb.....

    I too main a shaman, if he is doing this.. he is not dotting, not spot healing off tanks, curing etc... at least that is what he is implying... is that he cannot swap targets or the MT will die.... if he is in fact dotting, curing, etc... then.. I do not see where he has a complaint as he will need to reacquire his MT target anyway.

    That and he is dealing with a serious lack of clerics if he is having to MT heal...
  14. Millianna Augur

    I honestly no longer care about change I am perfectly fine with it. I believe Conq was correct - My heals to a MT are largely insignificant and it’s irrelevant to watch one.

    Do you really think DBG is going make change to the game based a small group of people complaining? I’m sure there will be nerf to correct the exploitation of HoT sooner than latter, but it’s certainly not related to this thread.
  15. Smokezz Augur

    LOL... You're completely off the rails. Exploit now? Come on.
  16. Millianna Augur

    I am dotting. I’m not going heal a MT that’s not currently MT. Sometimes it’s a lack of clerics and sometimes its lack of wars. If you only have 3 wars, you cannot afford 1 to go down.
  17. Warpeace Augur

    Sigh.....just stop already.
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  18. Angahran Augur


    Where exactly did the devs post about /tgb causing so much lag ?
  19. Millianna Augur

    Test forums...

    As a heads up for everyone, the reason we're pushing the initial part of the test patch early this month is to get some extra time and attention on some significant changes to how spells are cast. The changes are primarily intended to improve zone performance as well as fix a few minor inconsistencies.

    Please be on the lookout for any anomalous behavior when using spells and abilities. Ideally there won't be any noticeable differences from live other than, hopefully, less lag when the zone is under extreme processing load (as is often seen during raid events.)

    Thanks!
  20. Angahran Augur


    I saw that.
    There is nothing there about the tgb change.

    This seems to suggest it is nothing to do with tgb since that IS a noticeable change.

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