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Teek and Anniversary Tower - a Lose/Lose?

Discussion in 'Time Locked Progression Servers' started by Achillez, May 28, 2024.

  1. Waring_McMarrin Augur

    Again, you are not forced to do it and you don't need that gear to easily beat all the raids in the expansions that it is relevant. You also still need to do those raids in order to fill other slots and get other useful gear such as various clicky items and epics.

    Just because you can fill some slots with the new tower gear doesn't mean that you no longer have a need to do any other content in the game.
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  2. Waring_McMarrin Augur

    Again, just because some of the slots are filled doesn't mean that you don't still have a need to do raid content for the other slots and cliky items or epics. There is still plenty of reason to raid as you won't be able to get a complete set of gear from the tower.

    Given the fact that people have been easily beating the first few expansions raids for years without this gear means that in the end it isn't going to matter much. Either they can easily clear the raids with the new gear or they can ignore it and easily clear the raids without it.
  3. Gheed Augur

    Its pretty funny and very stupid that its in the game.

    500HP
    FT5
    40AllRes
    100+ AC

    All this for 5 slots in Kunark era that you farm on level 2s.... yeah... its fine :rolleyes:

    At the end of the day though, its not that big of a deal. I grabbed it for my characters with basically no effort, you can too. They aren't going to remove it, better go ahead and get over it.
  4. Hdizzle Augur


    The only role playing I do is with Mrs. Hdizzle

    Idk, I think people are just throwing a fit because it’s something different. The gear is overwhelming for the era but players with no Anny gear are already overwhelming for the era. Idk it doesn’t trigger me so much.
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    About to be 6 slots the next patch.
  6. Xeris Augur

    I think the only people that care about this are:

    A) People who just like complaining and worrying about things that don't impact them (if you don't like the tower gear... Don't get it or use it. If you don't like the post infusion messing up the economy, then go farm your own gear like anyone else)

    B) People who like exploiting content or markets who are mad that everyone has the ability to easily get this busted gear for this era.

    Yes the tower gear directly limits the ability of krono farmers to corner the market and make big bux farming krono cuz everyone can easily access this gear. That's a great thing.

    Have fun
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  7. Arclyte Augur

    The fact there are people here defending this is proof these forums are a joke

    It shouldn't have to be explained. The natural gameplay loop is: level up -> get gear -> fight boss -> get better gear & repeat.

    When you undercut that cycle you cheapen the game and people get bored a lot faster. This reminds me of Open Battle.net for Diablo 2, with a bunch of idiot kids giving themselves the best gear in Act I. It was stupid then and it's stupid now.
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  8. SoandsoForumUser Augur

    Later on when gear starts mattering, sure. At least personally I wanted like ~6 items up through luclin, and I still want them all regardless of tower. Namely guise, cos, fungal staff, tunic, shawl, clickies, etc. Random stat gear for slots I have zero concern about, it's all going to be replaced by the time I reach content where the stats start mattering for anyone other than tanks.
  9. Achillez Elder

    I always find it funny how so many people who advocate against balancing this gear, also claim at this point in the game gear doesn't matter. If gear doesn't matter, why do you care about balancing the tower gear?
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  10. Xerzist Augur

    Just more crap the devs can RMT to the public for kronos.

    It's literal insanity and completely defiles the point of "progression"

    Nah bros. Just get 55 and be BIS. Then plat dupe will happen and economy will crash and we can all teardrops on our guitar again - or abuse it like everyone else did. Devs just out of touch with everything its really annoying.

  11. Muramx Augur


    This right here. Everyone trying to say the tower stuff isn't that good... Takes Luclin end game last boss 1 item that's BiS for everyone as a comparison lol.
    If that isn't some gas lighting...
  12. Muramx Augur


    Now use the level 65 tower gear... I like how you all casually skip over the part when the tower gear becomes comparable to group gear which is what the tower gear is... It's already to be upgraded at 65. People will have a whole new set. Not be wearing the 55 stuff. A classes PoT BP is arguable the best stay gear your going to get in PoP. With the tower your getting just before the tower ends at the end of Teeks PoP run that's 12 slots like a face that is slightly better then a PoT breastplate, LoY and LDoN have nothing. GoD gear is barely better then PoP, one of the reasons GoD in era was tough. The 65 stuff is going to take a player into Anguish.

    The tower gear was scaled for live like defiant. There is a reason defiant isn't in the game on TLPs the tower never been active on the 2 TLPs for the same reason anniversary quests, holiday quests, hardcore heritage, etc aren't turned on the stuff is not tuned for a TLP
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    has anyone actually done the quests? at our level the item is like +15 HP etc..
  14. Muramx Augur


    Yeah it's called playing it on Oakwynd. The 65 Augs for example are double the 55 one. The tower scaling was ment for live where no one really plays the low level the gap slowly closes on group gear from the tower to group gear in game at 125 it's comparable to T2 group armor.. the non visible armor is like having a PoTime BP on your face.
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  15. Gheed Augur

    Yeah those poor krono farmers..... Now they need a bunch of level 2 mages!

    Shambles I bet
  16. Captain Video Augur


    First off, Defiant gear isn't scaled for Live. The bottom tier is level 10 and the top tier caps at level 80. The top couple of Defiant tiers aren't close to BiS group gear in-era; for that you really need to be doing group progression starting in SoF. Second, there is Defiant armor in the game at GoD; the tutorial armor drops exactly equal Cruide Defiant. It is arguably OP at that point, but it's there and nobody is complaining about it. Third, the devs who were all uptight about restricting the appearance of Defiant gear on TLPs (shout out to Prathun in particular) are all no longer with the company. The current team clearly has different thoughts, whether you like that or not. As I said before, the scaling you see is not an accident.

    You started out by arguing that the tower gear, at matching level, was better than in-era raid gear. Now you're admitting it's actually scaling to T2 group gear, which is what I and others have been saying all along. Eventually it will taper off, because at the end of the year the tower will go away, and we don't know when or if it will come back. People will be doing their raids and missions with or without this gear, the existing progression paths are still in the game. If you don't like it, then don't use it. They're not going to change it on your say-so. If anything, hearing all the whining from the biggest Krono dealers is a major win for them.
  17. Chuuk Augur

    IMO, folks are right, none of this stuff is needed, the game is pretty stinking easy as-is. Stats are pretty meaningless and/or easy to max anyways and 400hp / 40+ resists / FT5 isn't entirely game breaking.

    But, it just cheapens the experience and pressures people to buy the expansion / personas to keep up with the Joneses - not necessarily pay-to-win, but pay-to-be-better.

    To me, the worst part of it all is that is can be cheesed with a L2 mage. If the intent was to give players raid-level gear with group-level effort, at least make it require a freaking group. Having the gear in the game is one thing, but being able to get it via cheese is another.
  18. Twistingtime Augur


    The tower has nothing to do with the expansion/personas. You don't need a persona to farm the tower. Alts work better and everyone has access to alts. Cheese is only used to farm the timeless tokens. You still have to complete all the tower rooms and be the appropriate level to purchase the items, most folks are going to need a group for that. A level 2 mage can't buy the level 55 gear.
  19. Chuuk Augur


    So half of it can be cheesed with a L2 mage...still dumb.
  20. Zapsos Augur


    Step 1: Have a level 55
    Step 2: Make a Mage Persona and level to 2
    Step 3: Solo tower on your mage persona
    Step 4: Switch back to your 55 and buy all the now unlocked stuff.