No, that's actually on point. A reason to post PoWar or sub 30min Ghost wins is that I feel it's a strong indication of future success. PoWar wins have a higher correlation to TDS raiding success than even Day 1 Journey Home wins, something I guessed long before TDS launched. Deillusional guessed guilds skipping Zek Brothers would have trouble progressing (my best guess, maybe it was purely a red flag of shame) so people checking lavanet should be wary of joining guilds that couldn't handle Zek Brothers and used the red flag so people who just checked Tower results would know which guilds those were. My guess for next expansion is that guilds who beat (pre-nerf) Ghost in 30min or less will have a high correlation with the most successful raiding guilds. That a guild beats Arx5 after 50 or 100 tries in the summer or fall or 2015 will quite possibly be less predictive than which guilds quickly defeated Ghost while only getting 1 attempt per week. Even before next expansion if Cold Fury or Triality comes back and gets a sub 30min Ghost win that would be a pretty good indication that it's quite possibly a stronger guild than others which are months ahead in TDS progression. I'm aware you were being sarcastic, I'm just using your comment to illustrate the "value" of a leader board. You have objective information if you actually want to see what happened to a guild. As an added perk it was an excuse to link Quellious Flames and maybe reading some of those will spread some holiday cheer.