TDS first raid

Discussion in 'The Veterans' Lounge' started by smash, Oct 31, 2014.

  1. Deillusional Augur

    will you give us even more condolences when I say we got 2 war weapons from the same event? ;/
  2. Iila Augur

    Alts are gonna be getting so many belts, weapons and shoulders.
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  3. Ravengloome Augur

    Mana, Spell Runes, Aggro, and whatever else is a resource!
  4. Maeryn Augur

    Thanks to all those who provided the data. I don't believe that I can get a much clearer picture of the drop rates by this method. At this point there enters an issue that because of human nature it's more likely for someone to report something unusual (Cult aug from Vitio, not getting Cult aug from Arx4) while they are less likely to report drops if if closely matches expected drops.

    A Range item not dropping from Arx2 was probably the "wildest" thing that can happen that I didn't know about prior to today. Arx5 appears to be BP and Head but is was actually 2 Heads, 2 BPs and one of each for the first 3 wins and it might not always drop 2 pieces of armor.

    Defense of the City - loot from 37 wins
    Per win: 1.57 Gloves (58 in 37), 0.46 Cultural augs (17 in 37), 1.57 weapons (58 in 37), 1.14 Earring (42 in 37), 0.22 Charms (8 in 37), 0.16 Tita's Incapacitating Cincture (6 in 37), 2.83 101-103 Spells (82 in 29)

    All templates have been reported as drops. Spells are most likely something like: 40% - 2 Spells, 30% - 3 Spells, 30% - 4 Spells (this would be 2.9 per win).

    Captain Tita's Ghost - loot from 11 wins

    Per win: 1 Armor (11 in 11), 0.55 2nd Armor (6 in 11), 0.64 Cultural aug (7 in 11), 1.64 weapons (18 in 11), 1 Non-Vis (11 in 11), 0.45 2nd Non-Vis (5 in 11), 1 Proc Belt/Click (11 in 11), 4 101-105 spells (24 in 6)

    Principal Quastori Numicia - loot from 12 wins

    Per win: 0.67 Arms (8 in 12), 0.5 Wrist (6 in 12), 0.17 Boots (2 in 12), 0.33 Cultural augs (4 in 12), 1 Face (12 in 12), 0.92 Range (11 in 12), 1.58 Weapons (19 in 12), 0.17 Proc Belts/Clicks (2 in 12), 1.25 Spells (5 in 4)

    Principal Vicarum Nomia - loot from 12 wins

    Per win: 0.67 Arms (8 in 12), 0.5 Wrist (6 in 12), 0.5 Legs (6 in 12), 0.67 Cultural aug (8 in 12), 1 Ring (12 in 12), 0.67 Ring/Shield (8 in 12), 1.42 Weapons (17 in 12), 0.08 Proc Belt/Clicks (1 in 12), 1.6 Spells (8 in 5)

    Principal Indagatrix Lucia - loot from 11 wins

    Per win: 0.55 Wrist (6 in 11), 0.64 Feet (7 in 11), 0.27 Legs (3 in 11), 0.73 Cultural aug (8 in 11), 1 Neck (11 in 11), 1 Belt (11 in 11), 1.64 Weapons (18 in 11), 0.09 Proc Belt/Clicks (1 in 11), 1.2 Spells (6 in 5)

    Praetor Vitio - loot from 9 wins

    Per win: 1 Armor (9 in 9), 0.56 2nd Armor (5 in 9), 0.11 Cultural aug (1 in 9), 1 Non-Vis (9 in 9), 0.22 2nd Non-Vis (2 in 9), 1.56 Weapons (14 in 9), 1 Proc Belt/Click (9 in 9), 4.2 Spells (21 in 5)

    Calix Quirinus - loot from 3 wins

    Per win: 3 Head (3 in 3), 3 BP (3 in 3), 0.33 Cultural (1 in 3), 1 Shoulders (3 in 3), 1 Back (3 in 3), 1.67 Weapons (5 in 3), 0 Proc Belt/Clicks (0 in 3), Spells (0 in 0)

    Defense Loot Table (Arx1): - loot from 37 wins
    1 Glove, 1 Weapon, 1 Ear/Charm, 2 101-103 Spells seems to be guaranteed.
    57% chance at 2nd Glove, Chance at 2nd Weapon, 2nd Ear/Charm, Proc Belt/Click, Cultural aug, 3rd-4th 101-103 Spells.

    Principal Loot Tables (Arx 2-4): - loot from 35 wins
    1 Armor, 1 Weapon, 1 Spell is guaranteed.
    Most likely 1 Face & 1 Range from Arx2, 1 Ring & chance at Ring/Shield from Arx3, 1 Neck & 1 Belt from Arx4 but any of those slots might rarely not drop other than Ring/Shield which doesn't drop fairly often.
    57% chance at 2nd Armor expected based on Axxius relayed info, 48.6% rate in the sample
    Chance at 2nd Weapon, Proc Belt/Click, Cultural aug and seems to only be a chance at a 2nd spell and average of around 1.5 spells per win..

    Calix Quirinus Loot Table (Arx5): - loot from 3 wins
    1 Armor and 1 Weapon is most likely guaranteed.
    1 Shoulder, 1 Back and 2nd Armor is probably very likely.
    Chance at 2nd Weapon and Cultural and most likely a chance at Proc Belt/Click.
    Spells Unknown

    One-Off Loot Tables (Ghost & Vitio) - loot from 20 wins
    1 Armor, 1 Weapon, 1 Non-Vis, 1 Proc Belt/Click is guaranteed, Most likely 3 Spells guaranteed.
    Chance at 2nd Armor, 2nd Weapon, 2nd Non-Vis, Cultural aug and 4th-5th Spells.

    Silent Redemption has an awesome searchable public DKP site:

    Mindblight (SoD endzone 1st of 7)) - http://www.silentredemption.org/mobinfo.cgi?mid=806 - 150 of 162 or 92.6% of armor drops make Wrists or Hands, 91 kills so 1.65 per win

    Gatekeeper (UF endzone 1st of 7) - http://www.silentredemption.org/mobinfo.cgi?mid=843 - 34 of 37 or 91.9% of armor drops make Wrists, 21 kills so 1.62 per win

    Taking the Tower (HoT endzone 1st of 7) - http://www.silentredemption.org/mobinfo.cgi?mid=862 - 29 of 36 or 80.6% of armor drops make Wrists, 18 kills so 1.61 per win

    Order of Three (VoA end tier 1st of 8) - http://www.silentredemption.org/mobinfo.cgi?mid=880 - 38 of 46 or 82.6% of armor drops make Wrists, 23 kills so 1.65 per win

    Glimpse (RoF end zone 1st of 3 currency raids) - http://www.silentredemption.org/mobinfo.cgi?mid=922 - 52 of 116 or 44.8% of armor drops make Wrists, 39 kills so 1.33 per win

    Tower of Rot (CotF chronologically 1st of 3 T2 progression raids) - http://www.silentredemption.org/mobinfo.cgi?mid=938 - 20 of 44 or 45% of armor drops make Wrists, 22 kills so 0.91 per win

    Defense of the City (TDS 1st of 5 "standard" raids) - only drops Gloves but on the bright side back up to pre-RoF top tier drop rates with 1.57 per win, sadly a character can only use one pair of gloves from a Tier

    The highest glove drop rate from those same expansions:

    SoD - also Mindblight, same drop rate since same item makes both slots

    UF The Stone Warden - http://www.silentredemption.org/mobinfo.cgi?mid=851 - 18 of 38 drops or 47.4% and 18 in 20 kills or 0.9 per win, lower on both counts since players can use SPOILER ALERT 2 Wrists which is the 2nd most commonly dropped slot from Stone Warden

    HoT The Essence of Dreams - http://www.silentredemption.org/mobinfo.cgi?mid=863 - 22 of 36 drops or 61.1% and 22 in 18 kills or 1.22 per win, lower on both counts and Wrists are the 2nd most commonly dropped slot from Essence of Dreams

    VoA The Cacophony of Power - http://www.silentredemption.org/mobinfo.cgi?mid=879 - 12 of 24 drops or 50% and 12 in 12 kills or 1 per win, lower on both counts and remaining drops rather evenly distributed with 2 or 3 per but no Heads in that particular sample of 12 wins

    RoF also from Glimpse - 34 of 116 drops or 29.3% and 34 in 39 kills or 0.87 per win, lower on both counts

    CotF also from Tower of Rot - 10 of 44 or 22.7% and 10 in 22 kills 0.45 per win, lower on both counts

    TDS, Wrists from 3 Principal raids combine to match the Glove drop rate from Arx1 and no indication that either is more likely to drop than the other from "bonus" raids, Chandrok's level of intellect truly amazes me.

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    tl;dr - Your best choice will often be to spend your Arx Currency on Charm, Earring and/or Ring and the drop rate for Spells in TDS is extremely low relative to previous expansions
  5. Arwyn-RoV Augur

    Vitio paid the bills last night for RoV:

    Facia Fatuom, Clauvi Anulium, Faculta Prima, Scindio, Usasium, Darkwater Tunic, Darkwater Armguards, Elder Source of Creation, Greater Essence of the Citadel, Median Essence of the Citadel, Lesser Essence of the Citadel, Minor Essence of the Citadel
  6. Silentchaos Augur

  7. Axxius Augur

    Well, what do you know...

    Ghost:

    Locus Anulium, Vitali Claw, Magna Fulgia, Darkwater Bracer, Darkwater Armguards, Venenium, Glowing Essence of the Citadel, Glowing Essence of the Citadel, Greater Essence of the Citadel, Minor Essence of the Citadel, Median Essence of the Citadel, Greater Essence of the Citadel

    6 spells! :eek:
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  8. Robnie Augur

    [Tue Dec 09 22:21:12 2014] You say to your guild, 'Facia Quietus, Lamna Felicis, Farrum Ventus, Darkwater Bracer, Median Essence of the Citadel, Median Essence of the Citadel, '
    [Tue Dec 09 22:21:12 2014] You say to your guild, 'Elder Source of Creation'
    I'm starting to think someone else should loot chest. 2 rogue non visibles =/
    Knight wep is cool though

    Arx#2

    PS: Go RA!
  9. Ravengloome Augur

    What's your charisma!?
  10. Axxius Augur

    We have a druid wearing a hot pink outfit open the chests. That's how you get 2 BP's from Vitio and 6 spells from the Ghost. :D
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  11. Taiqwon Augur

    Hrm. How about a hairy monk in a pink mama glugg dress handing out cookies?